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mdb1958 wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:06 am I'm going to make a strong statement, Hall, Vea, and Kancey all should be part time starters. The quality of new talent would determine how much they would stay on the field.
You want to quasi-bench Kancey for shits and giggles? That may be the worst take I've seen from you. Calijah just turned 23 and is probably our brightest star in the defensive front 7. I would give him every rep possible barring injury or circumstance.

That said, there were nearly 1100 defensive snaps a player could have had for us last season (LVD played most of them), and no defensive lineman or edge save Shaq Barrett played more than 700 of them. So in a way, your wish is already granted, as only the Sack Ferret, who is no longer on the team, played more than 63% of the time.
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Hoping some of those WR workouts push an EDGE like Chop into our laps.
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mdb1958 wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:06 am I'm going to make a strong statement, Hall, Vea, and Kancey all should be part time starters. The quality of new talent would determine how much they would stay on the field.
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mdb1958 wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:06 am I'm going to make a strong statement, Hall, Vea, and Kancey all should be part time starters. The quality of new talent would determine how much they would stay on the field.
Strong.

Not very good.

...but strong.
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A starter by definition means you just take the 1st snap. I’m essense all DL are “part time” because it’s nearly impossible for them to play all of the snaps and they rarely do. Vea plays around 45-50% of snaps I believe so he’s been part time. Not sure on Cancey. Hall is ass so I wouldn’t hate that.

We need to continue adding talent up front.
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Bootz wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:37 pm A starter by definition means you just take the 1st snap. I’m essense all DL are “part time” because it’s nearly impossible for them to play all of the snaps and they rarely do. Vea plays around 45-50% of snaps I believe so he’s been part time. Not sure on Cancey. Hall is ass so I wouldn’t hate that.

We need to continue adding talent up front.
The top tier, pass rushing DTs play more. Players like AD and Chris Jones play 70+% and have more games of 80+% than they don't. Last year was the first year AD didn't have at least 1 game playing 100% in the last 3 years.
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uscbucsfan1 wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:12 pm
Bootz wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:37 pm A starter by definition means you just take the 1st snap. I’m essense all DL are “part time” because it’s nearly impossible for them to play all of the snaps and they rarely do. Vea plays around 45-50% of snaps I believe so he’s been part time. Not sure on Cancey. Hall is ass so I wouldn’t hate that.

We need to continue adding talent up front.
The top tier, pass rushing DTs play more. Players like AD and Chris Jones play 70+% and have more games of 80+% than they don't. Last year was the first year AD didn't have at least 1 game playing 100% in the last 3 years.
Exactly. It’s rare. Suh was one who rarely came off the field as well. But for the most part they are all part timers.
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It doesnt have to be rare to increase the level of competition with 1st stringers and for sure doesnt have to be that way with 2nd stringers.
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These young cats winning rings is the best and worst thing to happen to Tampa. They have their rings. Now they want PAID!
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Very happy Antoine is coming back.
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By what I'd want, that only leaves eleven more. Then we get what we can get in the draft and do a hard search for UDFA's just like last year.
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Is our offensive line going to continue zone blocking - anyone know
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Gonna go out on a limb and say 1 of them will be moved.

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There is a lot to like about them, being able to stay on the field isnt one of them. I also thought, what if serious talent was added - would they somehow have this miraculous turnaround of being tough for a couple more years.
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Is our offensive line going to continue zone blocking - anyone know
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mdb1958 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:19 pm Is our offensive line going to continue zone blocking - anyone know
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Now that Evans and Mayfield have signed, we should focus on getting a running back like Henry, drafting multiple defensive players, and address cornerback issues.
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Bootz wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 2:58 pm Gonna go out on a limb and say 1 of them will be moved.

Music to my ears. I'd rather spend money on pass rushers than cbs.

My hope is we go after a better rb, fix up the interior oline(either through draft or free agency), and go all in on some nasty pass rushers.

Bringing back whitehead at a good price would also make me happy.
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Phantom wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:43 pm Now that Evans and Mayfield have signed, we should focus on getting a running back like Henry, drafting multiple defensive players, and address cornerback issues.
Sign/re-sign Jordan Whitehead.
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Pass rushers are like QBs. Everyone wants one but there are only a handful of good ones in the NFL. Odds are we won’t be trading for or signing a game changing pass rusher this season; there really aren’t any available. As such, I think we need to go after an offensive weapon. Go all in on this Baker led offense. Add a RB like Henry who can take us from a mid tier offense to a top tier unit.

Use draft to add pieces to our defense and offensive line.

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Licht got a 29y/o JPP off a fresh fat contract for just a 3rd rounder. Plucked Shaq out of the bin.

I think he'll find something. Haason Reddick would work well here. Maybe a cheap Jamal Adams too.
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The Bucs need another safety who can play in coverage. They’re not exactly easy to find, or cheap, unfortunately.
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Doctor wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:52 pm Licht got a 29y/o JPP off a fresh fat contract for just a 3rd rounder. Plucked Shaq out of the bin.

I think he'll find something. Haason Reddick would work well here. Maybe a cheap Jamal Adams too.
Doubt we’re shopping too much these next few days.
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Cheb wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:36 am
mdb1958 wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:06 am I'm going to make a strong statement, Hall, Vea, and Kancey all should be part time starters. The quality of new talent would determine how much they would stay on the field.
You want to quasi-bench Kancey for shits and giggles? That may be the worst take I've seen from you. Calijah just turned 23 and is probably our brightest star in the defensive front 7. I would give him every rep possible barring injury or circumstance.

That said, there were nearly 1100 defensive snaps a player could have had for us last season (LVD played most of them), and no defensive lineman or edge save Shaq Barrett played more than 700 of them. So in a way, your wish is already granted, as only the Sack Ferret, who is no longer on the team, played more than 63% of the time.
I know this is old topic, but part of the reason why our starting DTs barely may have >50% snaps has to do with Bowles' philosophy of rotating guys drive after drive as if the backups are just as good as starters. It works out okay for our OLBs who are all average to begin with, but fucks up IDL. We pulled that shit against the Lions and they made us pay dearly in the 2nd half both on pass and rush.
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Snake wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:55 pm The Bucs need another safety who can play in coverage. They’re not exactly easy to find, or cheap, unfortunately.
Justin Simmons fits that to a T. He won't come cheap though. But I'd offset that by moving 1 of the corners and offering Simmons a healthy deal.
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Jordan Whitehead.
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NFL Network just showed our current cap space at $4.8M.
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Grahamburn wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:38 pm NFL Network just showed our current cap space at $4.8M.
And the Bucs still need to sign LVD.
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GreatTimes wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:36 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:38 pm NFL Network just showed our current cap space at $4.8M.
And the Bucs still need to sign LVD.
We also still need to cut Russell Gage.
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IchabodCrane84 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:40 pm
GreatTimes wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:36 pm
And the Bucs still need to sign LVD.
We also still need to cut Russell Gage.
I assume we're going to try and get the most out of the investment since we let Shaq go before him.
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