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kaimaru wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:54 pm
Bootz wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:32 pm

Honestly he might not even make the final 53. He's hasn't been even mediocre.
He played in Dallas as a DE. We went to Denver as an OLB. He moved to a 4-3 LB in SF. Maybe Bowles likes that versatility as a backup. He also plays special teams so that helps him
Helps him what exactly?
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Bootz wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:58 pm
kaimaru wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:54 pm

He played in Dallas as a DE. We went to Denver as an OLB. He moved to a 4-3 LB in SF. Maybe Bowles likes that versatility as a backup. He also plays special teams so that helps him
Helps him what exactly?
Make the roster which you implied was unlikely
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kaimaru wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:27 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:58 pm

Helps him what exactly?
Make the roster which you implied was unlikely
Absent a legal issue based on guaranteed money and a PC to introduce, making the roster is pretty much a lock if not him starting.
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Onthebrink wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:58 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:23 pm The Baker era has already been better than anything we ever had with our savior Jameis.
Jamies went 9-7 one season which in case you don't know is a better record than 9-8.
Spot on.
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Onthebrink wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:58 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:23 pm The Baker era has already been better than anything we ever had with our savior Jameis.
Jamies went 9-7 one season which in case you don't know is a better record than 9-8.
True.

Interesting looking at those two years and seeing Jameis and Baker had the same number of regular season wins, and Jameis threw for 50 more yards (4090 vs 4040) and the same amount of TDs (28). Jameis did it with one less game… but with one less game Jameis also threw 8 more picks than Baker.

Oh and the Baker season also included a division title and a playoff win.

So, yeah, Baker had more success in one season than Jameis did in his entire career.
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Which logo didn't make the cut is your favorite?
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Deja Entendu wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:01 pm
Onthebrink wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:58 pm

Jamies went 9-7 one season which in case you don't know is a better record than 9-8.
True.

Interesting looking at those two years and seeing Jameis and Baker had the same number of regular season wins, and Jameis threw for 50 more yards (4090 vs 4040) and the same amount of TDs (28). Jameis did it with one less game… but with one less game Jameis also threw 8 more picks than Baker.

Oh and the Baker season also included a division title and a playoff win.

So, yeah, Baker had more success in one season than Jameis did in his entire career.
The season when we had Drew Brees and Matt Ryan in our division?

And when our wins included the 12-4 Chiefs, the 11-5 Falcons, and the 10-5 Seahawks?

PFF has 2016 Jameis and 2023 Baker neck and neck.

With all that in consideration, I wouldn't say either has outplayed the other. However it does give you a great idea of where we currently stand with our QB. We basically have 2016 Jameis on our roster.
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Sdbucs wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:04 pm
Deja Entendu wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:01 pm

True.

Interesting looking at those two years and seeing Jameis and Baker had the same number of regular season wins, and Jameis threw for 50 more yards (4090 vs 4040) and the same amount of TDs (28). Jameis did it with one less game… but with one less game Jameis also threw 8 more picks than Baker.

Oh and the Baker season also included a division title and a playoff win.

So, yeah, Baker had more success in one season than Jameis did in his entire career.
The season when we had Drew Brees and Matt Ryan in our division?

And when our wins included the 12-4 Chiefs, the 11-5 Falcons, and the 10-5 Seahawks?

PFF has 2016 Jameis and 2023 Baker neck and neck.

With all that in consideration, I wouldn't say either has outplayed the other. However it does give you a great idea of where we currently stand with our QB. We basically have 2016 Jameis on our roster.

If Jameis protected the ball like Baker did last year, then the 2016 Bucs have a better record and probably also win the division and a playoff game. Like they say, if my aunt had stones she’d be my uncle.

Jameis is a very talented QB… he is also an idiot. I’m not pretending it’s an incredible feat, but 8 less interceptions with an extra game, a division title, and a playoff win is without question a more successful season.
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Phantom wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:38 pm Which logo didn't make the cut is your favorite?
I like the Helmet on the top left. Nasty looking. If only the Bucs played that nasty all the time.
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Deja Entendu wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:47 pm
Sdbucs wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:04 pm

The season when we had Drew Brees and Matt Ryan in our division?

And when our wins included the 12-4 Chiefs, the 11-5 Falcons, and the 10-5 Seahawks?

PFF has 2016 Jameis and 2023 Baker neck and neck.

With all that in consideration, I wouldn't say either has outplayed the other. However it does give you a great idea of where we currently stand with our QB. We basically have 2016 Jameis on our roster.

If Jameis protected the ball like Baker did last year, then the 2016 Bucs have a better record and probably also win the division and a playoff game. Like they say, if my aunt had stones she’d be my uncle.

Jameis is a very talented QB… he is also an idiot. I’m not pretending it’s an incredible feat, but 8 less interceptions with an extra game, a division title, and a playoff win is without question a more successful season.
Jameis throws INTs, Baker takes Sacks. This is the main reason both QBs are stuck as average/below average QBs
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GreatTimes wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:23 pm
Phantom wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:38 pm Which logo didn't make the cut is your favorite?
I like the Helmet on the top left. Nasty looking. If only the Bucs played that nasty all the time.
Agreed ! I'm curious to see what the uniform would look like with that helmet.
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GreatTimes wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:23 pm
Phantom wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:38 pm Which logo didn't make the cut is your favorite?
I like the Helmet on the top left. Nasty looking. If only the Bucs played that nasty all the time.
Agreed.

Looks like we'd have a different color scheme too.
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William Gholston, who has played in more games than any other defensive lineman in franchise history, signed a third straight one-year deal with the Buccaneers on Monday
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Onthebrink wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:58 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:23 pm The Baker era has already been better than anything we ever had with our savior Jameis.
Jamies went 9-7 one season which in case you don't know is a better record than 9-8.
How many playoff wins that season?
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Kona wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:26 pm William Gholston, who has played in more games than any other defensive lineman in franchise history, signed a third straight one-year deal with the Buccaneers on Monday
Would anyone else sign him?

Legit ?
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Snake wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:07 pm
Kona wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:26 pm William Gholston, who has played in more games than any other defensive lineman in franchise history, signed a third straight one-year deal with the Buccaneers on Monday
Would anyone else sign him?

Legit ?
He has no market. He's basically Ryan Griffin that plays. We let him know when we feel like getting around to signing him.

The only thing of note he's done recently is make quotes that Logan Hall will have 6 sacks his rookie year and will blow up on defense.
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We also signed Lorenz Metz. A 6' 9" 330 lb OL who played mostly (and best) at RG, LG, and RT
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Gholston has never been a superstar, but he shows up, does his job, and doesn't complain. Even got himself a pick last year on a tipped ball if memory serves. Glad to have him back.
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kaimaru wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:15 pm We also signed Lorenz Metz. A 6' 9" 330 lb OL who played mostly (and best) at RG, LG, and RT
One big left guard.
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David Moore signed for a little over 1 mil, I think he wanted to go with Canales to Carolina.
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I mean, don't get me wrong. I am a Will Gholston enthusiast, and am happy for the career he's made for himself, and would be more than supportive of him entering a coaching role. But don't we want to develop and play our younger guys instead of giving Will snaps at this point? It's not like he's LVD, still playing at a Pro Bowl level. He's just collecting a paycheck at this point.
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Cheb wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:43 pm I mean, don't get me wrong. I am a Will Gholston enthusiast, and am happy for the career he's made for himself, and would be more than supportive of him entering a coaching role. But don't we want to develop and play our younger guys instead of giving Will snaps at this point? It's not like he's LVD, still playing at a Pro Bowl level. He's just collecting a paycheck at this point.

Maybe it's hoopla to announce his retirement if he doesnt make the cut.
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Phantom wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:38 pm Which logo didn't make the cut is your favorite?
Really don't like any of those.
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This is pretty cool.
So the Bucs have three of the NFL's 13 active players in the league 10+ years and still with the team that drafted them uninterrupted (as many as the entire AFC):

— Greg Auman (@gregauman)April 16, 2024

The list:
-Bucs: Will Gholston, Mike Evans, Lavonte David

-Cowboys: Zack Martin, DeMarcus Lawrence

-Eagles: Lane Johnson, Brandon Graham

-Falcons: Jake Matthews

-Browns: Joel Bitonio

-Chiefs: Travis Kelce

-Vikings: Harrison Smith

-Saints: Cameron Jordan

-Steelers: Cameron Heyward
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How many of those 13 guys are just occupying a roster spot and barely contributing
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One?
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Backside wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:29 pmOne?
If we're being honest, yea. And we all know who it is. IIRC all of those guys are still full-time starters except Gholston and maybe Brandon Graham. I'd have to check.
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Cam Jordan seems cooked though
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Deja Entendu wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:47 pm
Sdbucs wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:04 pm

The season when we had Drew Brees and Matt Ryan in our division?

And when our wins included the 12-4 Chiefs, the 11-5 Falcons, and the 10-5 Seahawks?

PFF has 2016 Jameis and 2023 Baker neck and neck.

With all that in consideration, I wouldn't say either has outplayed the other. However it does give you a great idea of where we currently stand with our QB. We basically have 2016 Jameis on our roster.

If Jameis protected the ball like Baker did last year, then the 2016 Bucs have a better record and probably also win the division and a playoff game. Like they say, if my aunt had stones she’d be my uncle.

Jameis is a very talented QB… he is also an idiot. I’m not pretending it’s an incredible feat, but 8 less interceptions with an extra game, a division title, and a playoff win is without question a more successful season.
What about Fumbles? Jameis was fameis for those too.
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IchabodCrane84 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:06 pm Gholston has never been a superstar, but he shows up, does his job, and doesn't complain. Even got himself a pick last year on a tipped ball if memory serves. Glad to have him back.
He is the type of guy every team needs a couple of on their team. Not a star, just a good, solid, football player
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:lol: :lol:

Maybe stop dancing in the backfield. Hit the correct hole when it opens without hesitation. Oh and average more than 3.7 yards a carry. Maybe then people will fear you.
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Bootz wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:37 pm
:lol: :lol:

Maybe stop dancing in the backfield. Hit the correct hole when it opens without hesitation. Oh and average more than 3.7 yards a carry. Maybe then people will fear you.
He must not watch his own tape. While the oline didnt do him many favors, he definitely didnt do himself any favors either.

Dude has done nothing but talk since hes gotten here. I fear hes been sniffing his own farts for too long.
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Sure.

Kill the horse and then start beating on it for a couple years.
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Bootz wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:37 pm
:lol: :lol:

Maybe stop dancing in the backfield. Hit the correct hole when it opens without hesitation. Oh and average more than 3.7 yards a carry. Maybe then people will fear you.
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