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Phantom wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:43 am
Grahamburn wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 6:31 am

I think we’ve only had 2? Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer.

And Elway kind of feels like a drafted player for Denver.
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I guess we could say he "won" that start with his 15-32 day for 157 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT can't we?! Lol.
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@Bootz

Why did you rate this post negatively?

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What do you disagree with? Did Dilfer win a Superbowl with the Buccaneers? Did Doug Williams win a Superbowl with the Buccaneers? Curious minds want to know.

I bet you did it because I downvoted one of your posts that I did not like... so you just downvoted one of mine for no reason.
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2026 NFL Draft awarded to Pittsburgh. 2025 Draft will be in Green Bay.

It’s been said they want to give teams that won’t host the Super Bowl the Draft. Future Draft host cities could include Charlotte, DC, Boston, Buffalo, Baltimore, Seattle and Denver.
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@Bootz Now you rated my question negatively. Jesus fuck. Grow up @Bootz !
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I down vote my own posts so Bootz thinks he's already marked his territory and then quietly moves on.
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Grahamburn wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:18 pm I down vote my own posts so Bootz thinks he's already marked his territory and then quietly moves on.
That is hilarious, but what shadow account are you using to do that?
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13F11B wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:32 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:18 pm I down vote my own posts so Bootz thinks he's already marked his territory and then quietly moves on.
That is hilarious, but what shadow account are you using to do that?
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Damn. That set up and spike. Well done.
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Grahamburn wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:36 pm
13F11B wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:32 pm

That is hilarious, but what shadow account are you using to do that?
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I thought that was the one @Bootz whined and complained about the moderators fucking with the account.... are you telling me you pwned @Bootz ?
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13F11B wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:47 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:36 pm

@kingbootz
I thought that was the one @Bootz whined and complained about the moderators fucking with the account.... are you telling me you pwned @Bootz ?
Hmmm, you might have found the answer to that mystery. anyone couldn't figure it out and it didn't happen to any else. @Grahamburn did admit to accessing that account and I was gonna leave it alone but @13F11B You chose to implicate him. So let's see what happened.
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Bootz wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:57 pm
13F11B wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:47 pm

I thought that was the one @Bootz whined and complained about the moderators fucking with the account.... are you telling me you pwned @Bootz ?
Hmmm, you might have found the answer to that mystery. anyone couldn't figure it out and it didn't happen to any else. @Grahamburn did admit to accessing that account and I was gonna leave it alone but @13F11B You chose to implicate him. So let's see what happened.
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I did not implicate him. He said he used that account to neg vote his posts. Personally, I think he was joking.
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Four Verticals wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 1:02 pm That seems to be a tad optimistic as a Jets win total but we'll see.

Who is it that's predicting 14 wins?
Draftkings has the Jets favored in 14 out of 17 games
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Bootz wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:57 pm
13F11B wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:47 pm

I thought that was the one @Bootz whined and complained about the moderators fucking with the account.... are you telling me you pwned @Bootz ?
Hmmm, you might have found the answer to that mystery. anyone couldn't figure it out and it didn't happen to any else. @Grahamburn did admit to accessing that account and I was gonna leave it alone but @13F11B You chose to implicate him. So let's see what happened.
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ModX wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 11:23 pm
Bootz wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:57 pm

Hmmm, you might have found the answer to that mystery. anyone couldn't figure it out and it didn't happen to any else. @Grahamburn did admit to accessing that account and I was gonna leave it alone but @13F11B You chose to implicate him. So let's see what happened.
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That account has not been accessed by @grahamburn regardless of what he says.
Okay great, so @Grahamburn is just a liar, which we already knew. Thanks for clearing that up.
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So @Bootz is Greg not up to the task of finding out what Wayne Ruby's injury is. Not even purported rumors
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mdb1958 wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 11:32 am So @Bootz is Greg not up to the task of finding out what Wayne Ruby's injury is. Not even purported rumors
He didn't have an update. Sorry.
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Pants on fire.
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Bootz wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 1:04 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 11:32 am So @Bootz is Greg not up to the task of finding out what Wayne Ruby's injury is. Not even purported rumors
He didn't have an update. Sorry.

I realize asking such a unique question would sell out who you are so get a friend to do it.
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It’s just a practice right?!
Bears rookie QB Caleb Williams struggled in practices today with the starters, with many “near interceptions.”

Williams completed just 3 passes in 7 on 7’s.

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7 on 7 lol. Half the completions in the NFL are "near interceptions" as in tight windows. 6 inches left or right and its picked.


we're in that unfun part of the offseason.
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Phantom wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:11 amYay or nay?
I actually think it's possible... no, I wouldn't be on it because I can't guarantee Rodgers stays healthy, but if he does, they have a shot.

Looking at their schedule, thinking that they're an 11-win caliber team, meaning top 10 team (9 teams won 11+ games last year), it's possible. Going by the premise that any road game against an expected 10+ win team would be a loss and any 11-win home game is a win, it comes out to 14 wins.

W1: @ SF (10+) - Loss
W2: @ TEN (-10) - Win
W3: vs NE (-11) - Win
W4: vs DEN (-11) - Win
W5: @ MIN (-10) - Win
W6: vs BUF (-11) - Win
W7: @ PIT (-10) - Win
W8: @ NE (-10) - Win
W9: vs HOU (-11) - Win
W10: @ AZ (-10) - Win
W11: vs IND (-11) - Win
BYE
W13: vs SEA (-10) - Win
W14: vs MIA (-11) - Win
W15: @ JAX (-10) - Win
W16: vs LAR (-11) - Win
W17: @ BUF (10+) - Loss
W18: @ MIA (10+) - Loss

10+ = Road games where I think the home team wins at least 10 games (Win for opponent)
-10 = Road game where I think the home team wins less that 10 games (Win for Jets)
11+ = Home game where I think the road team wins more than 11 games (Win for opponent)
-11 = Home game where I think the road team wins 11 games or less (Win for Jets)
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Phantom wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 8:27 pmWhoa...
Not that far fetched... outside of the Elway and Manning years, they've been a pretty bad franchise. They've had those two QB's for 20 of 64 seasons, making the playoffs in 14 of them. In the other 44 seasons, they had a winning record only 14 times... making the playoffs in 7 of them.

To be fair though, they never had the chance to draft Elway, and they did trade for him before he ever signed a deal with anyone else, so it's not like they got him as a known commodity.
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CannonFire wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 2:47 pm
Phantom wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 8:27 pmWhoa...
Not that far fetched... outside of the Elway and Manning years, they've been a pretty bad franchise. They've had those two QB's for 20 of 64 seasons, making the playoffs in 14 of them. In the other 44 seasons, they had a winning record only 14 times... making the playoffs in 7 of them.

To be fair though, they never had the chance to draft Elway, and they did trade for him before he ever signed a deal with anyone else, so it's not like they got him as a known commodity.
Can't you say that (outside of one or two QBs) about all AFL teams and their records as a franchise? Jets/Namath. Oilers/Moon. Patriots/Brady. Bills/Kelly&Allen. Dolphins/Marino/Tua. Bengals/Esiason/Burrow. etc
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Phantom wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 12:01 pm It’s just a practice right?!
Bears rookie QB Caleb Williams struggled in practices today with the starters, with many “near interceptions.”

Williams completed just 3 passes in 7 on 7’s.

Via CHGO Bears Podcast.
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kaimaru wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 6:55 pm
CannonFire wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 2:47 pm

Not that far fetched... outside of the Elway and Manning years, they've been a pretty bad franchise. They've had those two QB's for 20 of 64 seasons, making the playoffs in 14 of them. In the other 44 seasons, they had a winning record only 14 times... making the playoffs in 7 of them.

To be fair though, they never had the chance to draft Elway, and they did trade for him before he ever signed a deal with anyone else, so it's not like they got him as a known commodity.
Can't you say that (outside of one or two QBs) about all AFL teams and their records as a franchise? Jets/Namath. Oilers/Moon. Patriots/Brady. Bills/Kelly&Allen. Dolphins/Marino/Tua. Bengals/Esiason/Burrow. etc
Possibly, but off the top of my head, I don't know if all of those franchises were terrible.
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After Moon was McNair for Oilers/Titans
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He'd instantly be the best RB on this team by a mile.
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Bootz wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 8:25 am He'd instantly be the best RB on this team by a mile.
Hell yeah, could end up best backfield too.
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Central_Buc wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 9:02 am
Bootz wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 8:25 am He'd instantly be the best RB on this team by a mile.
Hell yeah, could end up best backfield too.
Hardly. While Dalvin would be a plus addition to THIS team, that would hardly apply around the league. That just speaks to how poorly this backfield has been constructed. This right now is inarguably the worst backfield in the NFL. Adding a top 20ish RB doesn't catapult it to best in the league.
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Bootz wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 9:16 am
Central_Buc wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 9:02 am

Hell yeah, could end up best backfield too.
Hardly. While Dalvin would be a plus addition to THIS team, that would hardly apply around the league. That just speaks to how poorly this backfield has been constructed. This right now is inarguably the worst backfield in the NFL. Adding a top 20ish RB doesn't catapult it to best in the league.
Key word was could because all the pressure would be taken off of White.
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Bootz wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 8:25 am He'd instantly be the best RB on this team by a mile.
How so? He’s gotten irrefutably worse each of the last four seasons in every measurable category. He’s now an older, more expensive Rachaad at this point in his career.
This smells of a 2021-2022 Bucs move, but a big no thanks at this point. IMO, he is Cook(Ed)
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acmillis wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 9:24 am
Bootz wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 8:25 am He'd instantly be the best RB on this team by a mile.
How so? He’s gotten irrefutably worse each of the last four seasons in every measurable category. He’s now an older, more expensive Rachaad at this point in his career.
This smells of a 2021-2022 Bucs move, but a big no thanks at this point. IMO, he is Cook(Ed)
I agree with you about Cook. That said, the bar is low. White isn't that good and his "production" is exclusively linked to volume. I'm not saying Cook would be great here. I'm saying our RB room is that bad.
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