2024 Coach hot seat

[CannonFire]

You're over simplifying what they Eagles fanbase wants. They want a competitive team that has a shot to win every year, just like everyone else. Doug Pederson has a better resume than Siriani, and he's about 3 month from getting fired... AGAIN. I also think you're overrating Siriani. If you watch Eagles games, he's really not that good of a HC. He may be someone who's just better as a coordinator than the guy in charge.

You say I'm over simplify and then say a guy that's made the playoffs each year he's been a HC is overrated. Based on what exactly, because it damn sure isn't his resumé.

Yes, you're saying that the fans want a Super Bowl or bust. That's not the case. That's why you're oversimplifying it.

You need to watch Eagles games. The dude isn't a good HC. They went to a Super Bowl, yes, that's because of the talent, the system, and the assistants. That's not what's there now. The talent has dropped off. Their secondary is trash. Their pass rush is "good", not elite like it used to be. The OLine isn't elite, it's "good". Their LB's aren't "good", they're actually pretty bad (one could make the argument that paying an "ok" QB "great QB money" caused the team to let some players go... but you know).

Their OC and DC from the Super Bowl team are both gone. They've even fired the guys who replaced those guys. Siriani is trying to make Hurts a pocket passer. Yes, that's Siriani doing that. On top of that, in their last 11 games, the Eagles are 3-8. I think the Eagles are heading towards a 9-8 season and out of the playoffs.

[Phantom]

The simple answer is he's 3-8 in his last 11 games and the QB appears to have major issues with his leadership. Hurts isn't going anywhere, sooo...

They could certainly turn it around out of the bye. They have a ton of talent.

Many people in Philadelphia are eager to see him removed soon. I don't follow the Eagles games closely, but with the Buccaneers game on

They're 2-2 si they do not need to feel panic this soon.

[Bootz]

You say I'm over simplify and then say a guy that's made the playoffs each year he's been a HC is overrated. Based on what exactly, because it damn sure isn't his resumé.

Yes, you're saying that the fans want a Super Bowl or bust. That's not the case. That's why you're oversimplifying it.

You need to watch Eagles games. The dude isn't a good HC. They went to a Super Bowl, yes, that's because of the talent, the system, and the assistants. That's not what's there now. The talent has dropped off. Their secondary is trash. Their pass rush is "good", not elite like it used to be. The OLine isn't elite, it's "good". Their LB's aren't "good", they're actually pretty bad (one could make the argument that paying an "ok" QB "great QB money" caused the team to let some players go... but you know).

Their OC and DC from the Super Bowl team are both gone. They've even fired the guys who replaced those guys. Siriani is trying to make Hurts a pocket passer. Yes, that's Siriani doing that. On top of that, in their last 11 games, the Eagles are 3-8. I think the Eagles are heading towards a 9-8 season and out of the playoffs.

Anytime you're cherrypicking segments of time, you've squashed your own point. Last 11 games is the last 6 regular season games of 2023, a playoff game, and the 4 games this season. Is this the metric in which we're judging all HCs? Not even a definitive number that has significants. But just the "last 11 games".

[CannonFire]

Yes, you're saying that the fans want a Super Bowl or bust. That's not the case. That's why you're oversimplifying it.

You need to watch Eagles games. The dude isn't a good HC. They went to a Super Bowl, yes, that's because of the talent, the system, and the assistants. That's not what's there now. The talent has dropped off. Their secondary is trash. Their pass rush is "good", not elite like it used to be. The OLine isn't elite, it's "good". Their LB's aren't "good", they're actually pretty bad (one could make the argument that paying an "ok" QB "great QB money" caused the team to let some players go... but you know).

Their OC and DC from the Super Bowl team are both gone. They've even fired the guys who replaced those guys. Siriani is trying to make Hurts a pocket passer. Yes, that's Siriani doing that. On top of that, in their last 11 games, the Eagles are 3-8. I think the Eagles are heading towards a 9-8 season and out of the playoffs.

Anytime you're cherrypicking segments of time, you've squashed your own point. Last 11 games is the last 6 regular season games of 2023, a playoff game, and the 4 games this season. Is this the metric in which we're judging all HCs? Not even a definitive number that has significants. But just the "last 11 games".

No, it's a way of showing that the team is regressing.

[Bootz]

Anytime you're cherrypicking segments of time, you've squashed your own point. Last 11 games is the last 6 regular season games of 2023, a playoff game, and the 4 games this season. Is this the metric in which we're judging all HCs? Not even a definitive number that has significants. But just the "last 11 games".

No, it's a way of showing that the team is regressing.

Not really because you're using partial data from 1 season and bringing it to the next. By your logic, had they beaten the Falcons and Bucs and had been 4-0 this year, that would still mean they are a "regressing team" because they would've been 5-6 in that 11 game span.

Its clearly a cherrypicked period of time that doesn't hold much weight here.

[Grahamburn]

No, it's a way of showing that the team is regressing.

Not really because you're using partial data from 1 season and bringing it to the next. By your logic, had they beaten the Falcons and Bucs and had been 4-0 this year, that would still mean they are a "regressing team" because they would've been 5-6 in that 11 game span.

Its clearly a cherrypicked period of time that doesn't hold much weight here.

I’ll chime in, just because.

It’s cherry picked because prior to this stretch they were a defending 2022 NFC Champion and 2023 Super Bowl favorite juggernaut of a football team and people are wondering what the Hell has happened over their last 11 games after starting 2023 10-1.

[CannonFire]

No, it's a way of showing that the team is regressing.

Not really because you're using partial data from 1 season and bringing it to the next. By your logic, had they beaten the Falcons and Bucs and had been 4-0 this year, that would still mean they are a "regressing team" because they would've been 5-6 in that 11 game span.

Its clearly a cherrypicked period of time that doesn't hold much weight here.

Incorrect. If they were 4-0 then you'd look at that as they turned things around after finishing last year 1-6 and that's behind them. The reason why 3-8 is used is because they're showing they haven't turned things around. Now, one caveat that I'll give the Eagles is that because they have a new OC and DC, there's new things to learn and that as the season progresses, you could see things turn around. Also, when a team is without their top 2 WR's, a top OL, and a few other players, you'd expect them to not look too good.

[McFan]

Robert Saleh. 4 years he's won less than 30% of his games. NYJ fans despise him and Hackett. He's definitely in the frying pan...

[GoldenBudda]

Thursday's game was nothing more than confirmation that Todd Bowles is a terrible head coach.

The offense looked absolutely great. We had 1/2 of the coaching right. Todd Bowles cant call the right defense. Pressure was working, but I knew he would let up and I knew the Falcons would get inside the 30 to tie the game with a FG. OT was more of the same.

What does the hot seat look like? Kirk Cousins throwing for 4 TD and over 500 yards, while making it look easy.

[Doctor]

Offense scored 6 points after halftime. Defense handed them multiple shots to win the game with a mere first down.

But sure.

[Bootz]

1st coach gone

[McFan]

Robert Saleh. 4 years he's won less than 30% of his games. NYJ fans despise him and Hackett. He's definitely in the frying pan...

Well said... wasn't it?

[MRM]

I thought the other New York team would fire their coach before the Jets did.

[Grahamburn]

Offense scored 6 points after halftime. Defense handed them multiple shots to win the game with a mere first down.

But sure.

Fair. But, did the head coach neuter said offense intentionally?

[Cheb]

1st coach gone

This surprises me.

The Jets are 2-3, which is less than ideal I agree, but lets look at their losses. They lost week 1 to the 49ers who were Superbowl favorites to start the year, a 1 point squeaker to a Broncos team which has a fantastic great defense, and then two days ago had a one-score loss to the Vikings, who lets not forget is one of the two undefeated teams left in the league. Those three teams have a 10-5 record as a group. I know it's a meme around here to talk about quality losses... and while I may not agree with quality losses, you are losing to quality opponents, and that's part of playing football at a high level. This ain't Madden where you can turn down to difficulty and win every game in a blowout.

I dunno man. Is Jeff Ulbrich really going to save their season? Call me a skeptic but I doubt it.

[Phantom]

Robert Saleh. 4 years he's won less than 30% of his games. NYJ fans despise him and Hackett. He's definitely in the frying pan...

Well said... wasn't it?

replace by Jeff Uldridge? How does that make senses? He was worst defensive coordinator at UCLA

[Grahamburn]

Don't get why he's losing his job either. Defensive head coach whose defense has been playing pretty well.

The 2020 Bucs were 7-5 at one point. Seems like they're giving in a little early.

Must be some things going on behind the scenes.

[Phantom]

Don't get why he's losing his job either. Defensive head coach whose defense has been playing pretty well.

The 2020 Bucs were 7-5 at one point. Seems like they're giving in a little early.

Must be some things going on behind the scenes.

that's probably why

[Bootz]

Stay classy, Jets

[Phantom]

Forced to leave the building? What could have possibly angered them so much?

[Snake]

the Jets are a dysfunctional organization. Ownership is bad and this was a bad decision.

(And I’m not even a Saleh fan!)

[Snake]

Forced to leave the building? What could have possibly angered them so much?

Rodgers went to ownership, is my guess

[Noles1724]

Forced to leave the building? What could have possibly angered them so much?

Rodgers went to ownership, is my guess

I feel like Rodgers was in the mix some how.. I'll feel that way until proven otherwise.

[Snake]

O-W-N-E-R-S-H-I-P

[MRM]

The word online is Woody Johnson had some of his diplomatic buddies at the game in London and was embarrassed by the way the team played and he fired Saleh. Who knows? Owners have fired coaches for stranger reasons.

[Snake]

The word online is Woody Johnson had some of his diplomatic buddies at the game in London and was embarrassed by the way the team played and he fired Saleh. Who knows? Owners have fired coaches for stranger reasons.

Wouldn’t doubt it. Woody is horrible.

[Snake]

Mangini was also fired out of anger.

Saleh got 5 games with Rodgers fyi

[Doctor]

Offense scored 6 points after halftime. Defense handed them multiple shots to win the game with a mere first down.

But sure.

Fair. But, did the head coach neuter said offense intentionally?

Source?

[Grahamburn]

Fair. But, did the head coach neuter said offense intentionally?

Source?

I used a question mark. We threw the ball 9 times in the second half. The QB had 3 TD passes in the first half. Question mark.

[Snake]

[Snake]

Belichick catching on somewhere as HC and hiring Stefanski and Saleh as OC and DC is gonna be wild!

[Cheb]

Bingo

[Snake]

[Betsy]

1st coach gone

This surprises me.

The Jets are 2-3, which is less than ideal I agree, but lets look at their losses. They lost week 1 to the 49ers who were Superbowl favorites to start the year, a 1 point squeaker to a Broncos team which has a fantastic great defense, and then two days ago had a one-score loss to the Vikings, who lets not forget is one of the two undefeated teams left in the league. Those three teams have a 10-5 record as a group. I know it's a meme around here to talk about quality losses... and while I may not agree with quality losses, you are losing to quality opponents, and that's part of playing football at a high level. This ain't Madden where you can turn down to difficulty and win every game in a blowout.

I dunno man. Is Jeff Ulbrich really going to save their season? Call me a skeptic but I doubt it.

You can thank the cancer, Aaron R. for this one.

[Phantom]

This surprises me.

The Jets are 2-3, which is less than ideal I agree, but lets look at their losses. They lost week 1 to the 49ers who were Superbowl favorites to start the year, a 1 point squeaker to a Broncos team which has a fantastic great defense, and then two days ago had a one-score loss to the Vikings, who lets not forget is one of the two undefeated teams left in the league. Those three teams have a 10-5 record as a group. I know it's a meme around here to talk about quality losses... and while I may not agree with quality losses, you are losing to quality opponents, and that's part of playing football at a high level. This ain't Madden where you can turn down to difficulty and win every game in a blowout.

I dunno man. Is Jeff Ulbrich really going to save their season? Call me a skeptic but I doubt it.

You can thank the cancer, Aaron R. for this one.

The New York Jets' firing of head coach Robert Saleh came just one day after a meeting between owner Woody Johnson and quarterback Aaron Rodgers, the owner said on Tuesday.