Way too early 2025 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Depth Chart Predictions

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mdb1958 wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 8:21 am
CannonFire wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 7:59 am

I like Egbuka, but I think we missed an opportunity to address this problem at #19.
What guard are you drafting at 19? And what team would give us that big beautiful new 2nd rounder, if we tried I'm guessing we couldnt make it happen.
I don't follow college football so I'm not going to die on any hill for any one player, but Egbuka's college teammate Donovan Jackson, was taken by Minnesota just 5 picks after us. From NFL.com's draft profile of him: "Overall, Jackson has the measurables, power and movement for any scheme as a starting guard."

That works for me.

Again, I am actually a fan of Egbuka because my son is an Ohio State fan and I've seen him play, but there were other WR's that were taken in R2 or later that we could've drafted if the team really wanted to address that position. Also again, I'm not dying on any hill for any of these guys, but PFF (for example), had Elic Ayomanor rated as the 5th best WR in the draft... he went in R4 (pick 136). We could've drafted the same DB's that we did R2 and 3, and taken this guy in R4. The advantage to this guy, is that he projects to be a true "X" receiver. A perfect prospect to learn under Evans for about 2 years.

Just suggestions because Bredeson stunk and I'm not really sure Opeta will actually be any better. I'm sure Licht & Co & Bowles were all doing their due diligence on the players, but we all know that they're never always right (nor wrong). I'm not expecting them to be, but I think they could've attacked the draft a bit differently to address more pressing needs. Now, Egbuka could be a super star and the OL be fine this year and things work out where we get a guy next year (be it FA or the draft), and solve that problem. We'll see.
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Numerous teams are actively engaging in negotiations with the Dolphins regarding Ramsey trade

if the Bucs trade for him..

It is undeniable that he is a starter for this team.
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Phantom wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 6:13 pm Numerous teams are actively engaging in negotiations with the Dolphins regarding Ramsey trade

if the Bucs trade for him..

It is undeniable that he is a starter for this team.
He’s not worth the money
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Phantom wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 6:13 pm Numerous teams are actively engaging in negotiations with the Dolphins regarding Ramsey trade

if the Bucs trade for him..

It is undeniable that he is a starter for this team.
Licht is not going to be that aggressive. He doesn't make trades to acquire players from other teams. He only trades players away or trades in drafts. The last time we secured a meaningful player in a trade was when Licht was forced by Brady to trade for Gronk.

He could make the edge room a sure thing and probably increase our SB chances with a Hendrickson trade. But it won't happen. So Ramsey is even less of a chance.
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Jonny wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 12:44 am
Barnzy wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 6:57 pm

Not some crazy prediction at all. The less snaps Nelson has at OLB the better. He has no explosion or get off and most of his sacks are clean up or effort sacks. We need more dynamic players getting snaps off the edge. Nelson 573 snaps is way too much.
The head scratcher was, Nelson got higher annual salary than JTS and yet our front office decided to keep Nelson despite being the inferior player.
When I saw the contract come through I thought it was a tad high and I would've only done 1 year max. Was he getting that much money elsewhere or did we gave him the inside our building "he's a good guy" bonus?

Nelson on 10mil/2 years as an OLB 4 and they always had plans to draft at least one edge which had potential to push him to 5th in the rotation. You could argue that 5mil could've been used on more OL depth, safety depth, LB depth or just a better pass rusher. Azeez Ojulari signed with the Eagles for 4mil.
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Barnzy wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 8:37 pm
Jonny wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 12:44 am

The head scratcher was, Nelson got higher annual salary than JTS and yet our front office decided to keep Nelson despite being the inferior player.
When I saw the contract come through I thought it was a tad high and I would've only done 1 year max. Was he getting that much money elsewhere or did we gave him the inside our building "he's a good guy" bonus?

Nelson on 10mil/2 years as an OLB 4 and they always had plans to draft at least one edge which had potential to push him to 5th in the rotation. You could argue that 5mil could've been used on more OL depth, safety depth, LB depth or just a better pass rusher. Azeez Ojulari signed with the Eagles for 4mil.

Nelson was 2nd in snaps as a OLB and he was 5 snaps short for the special team lead.
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mdb1958 wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 9:25 pm
Barnzy wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 8:37 pm

When I saw the contract come through I thought it was a tad high and I would've only done 1 year max. Was he getting that much money elsewhere or did we gave him the inside our building "he's a good guy" bonus?

Nelson on 10mil/2 years as an OLB 4 and they always had plans to draft at least one edge which had potential to push him to 5th in the rotation. You could argue that 5mil could've been used on more OL depth, safety depth, LB depth or just a better pass rusher. Azeez Ojulari signed with the Eagles for 4mil.

Nelson was 2nd in snaps as a OLB and he was 5 snaps short for the special team lead.
Which is a big reason why the pass rush was so poor.
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Tavierre Thomas and JJ Russell are gone who is going to give us over 700 special teams snaps from those two?
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Barnzy wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 9:28 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 9:25 pm


Nelson was 2nd in snaps as a OLB and he was 5 snaps short for the special team lead.
Which is a big reason why the pass rush was so poor.
Who was better containing one side of the field?
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I'd love to know who was getting the 3rd down snaps on our defense.

We punted 50 times but we only forced 59 punts.
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Central_Buc wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 9:02 am
CannonFire wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 7:59 am

I like Egbuka, but I think we missed an opportunity to address this problem at #19.
I concur, Guard at 19? I honestly wouldn't have hated it. Imo its always smart going both lines in round 1but everyone else would be calling for Licht's head with the glaring need on D (and somewhat of a need at WR)
Booker went before our pick.
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Also signed Bredeson to an extension. They didn’t draft line at all so obviously they feel good about the situation.
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Grahamburn wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 6:35 am Also signed Bredeson to an extension. They didn’t draft line at all so obviously they feel good about the situation.
I also think they have plans on gradually fitting Klien as the starter. IIRC he had a good camp last year and he going in a year older.
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Central_Buc wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 8:58 am
Grahamburn wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 6:35 am Also signed Bredeson to an extension. They didn’t draft line at all so obviously they feel good about the situation.
I also think they have plans on gradually fitting Klien as the starter. IIRC he had a good camp last year and he going in a year older.
It was changed but Ourlads briefly had Ben Scott as a guard. Think maybe they all get looked at? I really hate giving out a unworthy designation to a human being - ever.

Even with the thought of Sanders being 26 next year on the practice squad.
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If they were to say dang Chukwuma looks pretty darn good as a guard! All I can do is see if I believe them.
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mdb1958 wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 9:17 am
Central_Buc wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 8:58 am

I also think they have plans on gradually fitting Klien as the starter. IIRC he had a good camp last year and he going in a year older.
It was changed but Ourlads briefly had Ben Scott as a guard. Think maybe they all get looked at? I really hate giving out a unworthy designation to a human being - ever.

Even with the thought of Sanders being 26 next year on the practice squad.
Ahhhh thats why Jimmies get rustled when Ben Scott is referred to as the BU center.

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Grahamburn wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 6:35 am Also signed Bredeson to an extension. They didn’t draft line at all so obviously they feel good about the situation.
Doesn't mean they're right about the situation. A lot of the OL deficiencies had to be schemed around and likely will still have to be schemed around.
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Central_Buc wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 8:58 am
Grahamburn wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 6:35 am Also signed Bredeson to an extension. They didn’t draft line at all so obviously they feel good about the situation.
I also think they have plans on gradually fitting Klien as the starter. IIRC he had a good camp last year and he going in a year older.
He's 25. Not as if he's some young pup with minimal experience playing football. For context, he's the same age Tristan Wirfs was when we signed him to the largest contract for a OL player at the time.
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Bootz wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 12:15 pm
Central_Buc wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 8:58 am

I also think they have plans on gradually fitting Klien as the starter. IIRC he had a good camp last year and he going in a year older.
He's 25. Not as if he's some young pup with minimal experience playing football. For context, he's the same age Tristan Wirfs was when we signed him to the largest contract for a OL player at the time.
Perfect then he should be ready to go day 1.
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Central_Buc wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 12:20 pm
Bootz wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 12:15 pm

He's 25. Not as if he's some young pup with minimal experience playing football. For context, he's the same age Tristan Wirfs was when we signed him to the largest contract for a OL player at the time.
Perfect then he should be ready to go day 1.
At what spot?
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Bootz wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 12:29 pm
Central_Buc wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 12:20 pm

Perfect then he should be ready to go day 1.
At what spot?
He's a Guard. We have a spot to be had if he out performs Bredeson in camp.
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Do our other O-linemen get a shot to show what they got?
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mdb1958 wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 10:46 pm Do our other O-linemen get a shot to show what they got?
Doubtful.

I think OBP will stick with what they have at OL, emphasize communication at the line, and look to other parts of the team to tinker with and/or improve.
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__Chef__ wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 11:42 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 10:46 pm Do our other O-linemen get a shot to show what they got?
Doubtful.

I think OBP will stick with what they have at OL, emphasize communication at the line, and look to other parts of the team to tinker with and/or improve.



They have to decide the best fit for the practice squad with the o-line and all the positions actually. Do you stay with who you've been working with or do you go with new blood.
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__Chef__ wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 11:42 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 10:46 pm Do our other O-linemen get a shot to show what they got?
Doubtful.

I think OBP will stick with what they have at OL, emphasize communication at the line, and look to other parts of the team to tinker with and/or improve.
Our line is getting better year after year since after losing everyone in 21..

3 of our linemen have been together for multiple years and Barton will go into year 2. Continuity is finally building. And obviously you hope Klien is the last piece to the puzzle so that we can move forward.
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For offense we added 1 free agent from the offseason and 6 UDFA's. Heck, Chukwuma, Scott, and Majors all seem handpicked by Licht. It would be nice if somehow our o-line cuts hung around waiting for the call.

On defense we added 3 free agents Reddick, Walker, and Vildor. Reddick has the big guarantee but I halfway wonder if we would put Walker and Vildor on the practice squad if things fell that way. Really none of them know the Buc way yet (so).

9 UDFA's from 2025 and all could stick unless they show poorly for whatever brought them here. I don't think enough has been said about JJ Roberts and Roman Parody, the Bucs seem very calm about things. I thought they would load the heck out of our 90 with DB's competing all over the place.

Very excited to see these players for the preseason.
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Walker is 3rd on the depth chart. He’s not going on the practice squad.

9 UDFAs making the final 53? I hope not. We’re in big trouble if that’s the case.
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Central_Buc wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 8:39 am
__Chef__ wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 11:42 pm

Doubtful.

I think OBP will stick with what they have at OL, emphasize communication at the line, and look to other parts of the team to tinker with and/or improve.
Our line is getting better year after year since after losing everyone in 21..

3 of our linemen have been together for multiple years and Barton will go into year 2. Continuity is finally building. And obviously you hope Klien is the last piece to the puzzle so that we can move forward.
I dont believe that to be true at all. I think we've gotten better at game planning and scheming around their weaknesses. Lots of misdirection in the run game, screens, short quick passes to get our skills guys in space. Coen did well working around the things the OL doesn't do well, and there's a lot.
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Grahamburn wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 9:35 am Walker is 3rd on the depth chart. He’s not going on the practice squad.

9 UDFAs making the final 53? I hope not. We’re in big trouble if that’s the case.
Walker the free agent - wake up.

9 defensive UDFA's for the 69 players we keep from the 2025 class.
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Guaranteed money


Sterling Shepard - $500,000
Anthony Walker Jr - $667,500
Kindle Vildor - $1,197,500
Iosea Opeta - $67,500
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Shepard's is $250k guarantee. If he makes the roster it's $500k.
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Four Verticals wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 11:57 am Shepard's is $250k guarantee. If he makes the roster it's $500k.


Look at the contract notes at Spotrac.
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mdb1958 wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 12:46 pm
Four Verticals wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 11:57 am Shepard's is $250k guarantee. If he makes the roster it's $500k.


Look at the contract notes at Spotrac.
Well, I guess I gotta read it a few times.
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