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I wouldn't move Dean unless it's for a premium pick. I doubt we re-sign him and he could net a larger deal elsewhere, which would be a positive in comp pick formula.

That said, any chance we're fooled by the contract year surge we often times see from players looking for new deals and give him one? Do we believe that the lightbulb finally came on in year 7?
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Dean has always been a good corner. Just didn't have the pics.

Doubt we resign him, or at least hopefully we don't. But that's due to age and whatnot, not us actual ability.
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BucsNBills wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 11:20 am Dean has always been a good corner. Just didn't have the pics.

Doubt we resign him, or at least hopefully we don't. But that's due to age and whatnot, not us actual ability.
If he gets 3 more pics this year then yes we re-sign him but only to a heavily incentivized deal so we know at just turned 29, if he is still viable.
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Babeinbucland wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 6:34 pm
BucsNBills wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 11:20 am Dean has always been a good corner. Just didn't have the pics.

Doubt we resign him, or at least hopefully we don't. But that's due to age and whatnot, not us actual ability.
If he gets 3 more pics this year then yes we re-sign him but only to a heavily incentivized deal so we know at just turned 29, if he is still viable.
If he gets 3 more picks he’s probably going to be an All-Pro and will get $20M+ AAV on the open market.

Great move by us to motivate him by cutting off a year of his deal. Good on him for playing well.
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The day before then, right?
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Im in favor of no trades. Our window is no where close to closed. Just Load up in talent next year and hope next year is healthy.
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There are rumors that the Raiders are trying to move Jackson Powers Johnson. That would be a great addition for us.
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Bootz wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:44 am I wouldn't move Dean unless it's for a premium pick. I doubt we re-sign him and he could net a larger deal elsewhere, which would be a positive in comp pick formula.

That said, any chance we're fooled by the contract year surge we often times see from players looking for new deals and give him one? Do we believe that the lightbulb finally came on in year 7?
I'm with this.

I wish we had kept Dean on his original cheap deal through next year. Easy money. But he's done right by us and we're doing by him. Hope he gets his bag somewhere. And us a comp pick.
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As a 2 time champ he should get paid.
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Redrum wrote: Fri Oct 31, 2025 5:42 pm There are rumors that the Raiders are trying to move Jackson Powers Johnson. That would be a great addition for us.
You’d have to ask yourself why.

We reportedly didn’t like his attitude back in that 2024 draft.
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Grahamburn wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:23 am
Redrum wrote: Fri Oct 31, 2025 5:42 pm There are rumors that the Raiders are trying to move Jackson Powers Johnson. That would be a great addition for us.
You’d have to ask yourself why.

We reportedly didn’t like his attitude back in that 2024 draft.
I didn't remember hearing that, I was almost positive he was a consideration but we had Barton higher.

Not that it matters..

If Brady wants to get rid of him then hes bad news I think
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Grahamburn wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:23 am
Redrum wrote: Fri Oct 31, 2025 5:42 pm There are rumors that the Raiders are trying to move Jackson Powers Johnson. That would be a great addition for us.
You’d have to ask yourself why.

We reportedly didn’t like his attitude back in that 2024 draft.
Supposedly they don't like his technique or overconfidence in himself. His tape has been very good though for the most part from what I've seen. Could be a Chip Kelly problem and/or that he's not a scheme fit.
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Central_Buc wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:54 am
Grahamburn wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:23 am

You’d have to ask yourself why.

We reportedly didn’t like his attitude back in that 2024 draft.
I didn't remember hearing that, I was almost positive he was a consideration but we had Barton higher.

Not that it matters..

If Brady wants to get rid of him then hes bad news I think
I doubt Brady is very involved in the day to day activity.
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Redrum wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:48 am
Central_Buc wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:54 am

I didn't remember hearing that, I was almost positive he was a consideration but we hyad Barton higher.

Not that it matters..

If Brady wants to get rid of him then hes bad news I think
I doubt Brady is very involved in the day to day activity.
He's not. He has a 5% ownership stake in the Raiders, the same as Magic Johnson has in the Commanders. You don't hear anyone saying he's out here making team decisions.
Fans just see Tom Brady and automatically assume he's running the show.
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Bootz wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:09 am
Redrum wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:48 am

I doubt Brady is very involved in the day to day activity.
He's not. He has a 5% ownership stake in the Raiders, the same as Magic Johnson has in the Commanders. You don't hear anyone saying he's out here making team decisions.
Fans just see Tom Brady and automatically assume he's running the show.
Didnt you know? Hes taking his private Jet to LV after doing the Lions Vikings game.. :)
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Central_Buc wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:54 am
Grahamburn wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:23 am

You’d have to ask yourself why.

We reportedly didn’t like his attitude back in that 2024 draft.
I didn't remember hearing that, I was almost positive he was a consideration but we had Barton higher.

Not that it matters..

If Brady wants to get rid of him then hes bad news I think
I think it was a Pewter Report article post-draft, which honestly they do a bit too much after their mocks are wrong. “The Bucs were not as high on this guy for X reason.” Blah blah blah.

JPJ was pegged to us a lot in mocks.

I’d love to add him. He is who I wanted in that draft. The Barton selection surprised me.

It’s odd for a team to be ready to move on from someone in their 2nd year though.
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Grahamburn wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 11:36 am
Central_Buc wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:54 am

I didn't remember hearing that, I was almost positive he was a consideration but we had Barton higher.

Not that it matters..

If Brady wants to get rid of him then hes bad news I think
I think it was a Pewter Report article post-draft, which honestly they do a bit too much after their mocks are wrong. “The Bucs were not as high on this guy for X reason.” Blah blah blah.

JPJ was pegged to us a lot in mocks.

I’d love to add him. He is who I wanted in that draft. The Barton selection surprised me.

It’s odd for a team to be ready to move on from someone in their 2nd year though.
Well according to Bootz, Brady doesn't possess the Ban Hammer. Its Mark Wario Davis we must run through, to save JPJ

Edit.. no no hes Bowser which means thats on extra difficult so we're not gonna get him.
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Bootz wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:09 am He's not. He has a 5% ownership stake in the Raiders ...Fans just see Tom Brady and automatically assume he's running the show.
While this logic is sound (extremely small minority position = no say) The reason he is even a minority stake holder is because he is the GOAT. He knows what it takes to win it all, and not from a physical superiority realm where the team with the best athletes brings home the trophy.

I'm not saying Brady is or isn't involved in whatever decision they are making about Jackson Powers, but if Brady is giving them the "trade him" signal, it would be foolish not to hear him out above what you would typically expect from a 5% pie holder.
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Central_Buc wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 1:06 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 11:36 am

I think it was a Pewter Report article post-draft, which honestly they do a bit too much after their mocks are wrong. “The Bucs were not as high on this guy for X reason.” Blah blah blah.

JPJ was pegged to us a lot in mocks.

I’d love to add him. He is who I wanted in that draft. The Barton selection surprised me.

It’s odd for a team to be ready to move on from someone in their 2nd year though.
Well according to Bootz, Brady doesn't possess the Ban Hammer. Its Mark Wario Davis we must run through, to save JPJ

Edit.. no no hes Bowser which means thats on extra difficult so we're not gonna get him.
Or maybe like 31 other teams........Their GM....Are you saying Brian Glazer is making all the draft and roster decisions around here and we had it wrong all these years? C'mon man. This aint hard. 5% stake owner ain't pulling the strings
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__Chef__ wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 1:50 pm
Bootz wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:09 am He's not. He has a 5% ownership stake in the Raiders ...Fans just see Tom Brady and automatically assume he's running the show.
While this logic is sound (extremely small minority position = no say) The reason he is even a minority stake holder is because he is the GOAT. He knows what it takes to win it all, and not from a physical superiority realm where the team with the best athletes brings home the trophy.

I'm not saying Brady is or isn't involved in whatever decision they are making about Jackson Powers, but if Brady is giving them the "trade him" signal, it would be foolish not to hear him out above what you would typically expect from a 5% pie holder.
WOW! I just...I can't. I didn't think we things around here would get anymore looney but then I remembered this happens every year. Deeper we get into the season, the more brain cells get fried.

Y'all really need to research minority ownership stakes around the league. These people don't become minority owners because of what they know. They do it to make money. Let's just go down a list shall we?

Kevin Durant
Lewis Hamilton
Condoleezza Rice
Vince Carter
Warrick Dunn
John Stallworth
Serena Williams
Venus Williams
Mark Anthony
Tracy McGrady
Gloria Estefan
Jozi Altidore

Just to name a few. In addition, with the rising costs to own an NFL team AND the league now allowing private equity ownership, you're seeing more owners sell small stakes to raise capital. And now, on this board, we have fools who believe a 5% owner, which is extremely small, is giving signals and making any decisions at all.

This is a new one. Yall shock me every year and not in a good way.
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Bootz wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 2:00 pm
__Chef__ wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 1:50 pm

While this logic is sound (extremely small minority position = no say) The reason he is even a minority stake holder is because he is the GOAT. He knows what it takes to win it all, and not from a physical superiority realm where the team with the best athletes brings home the trophy.

I'm not saying Brady is or isn't involved in whatever decision they are making about Jackson Powers, but if Brady is giving them the "trade him" signal, it would be foolish not to hear him out above what you would typically expect from a 5% pie holder.
WOW! I just...I can't. I didn't think we things around here would get anymore looney but then I remembered this happens every year. Deeper we get into the season, the more brain cells get fried.

This is a new one. Yall shock me every year and not in a good way.
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Gloria Estafan has minority stake in the Dolphins. That I didn't know but am glad to learn something new every day.

Wonder if she would give advice to us Loonies over here from Togus :)
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Teams don't try to get rid of good players in their sophomore seasons. For that reason alone, I am skeptical about trading for JPJ, despite how much I advocated for him prior to the draft.
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Cheb wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 4:00 pm Teams don't try to get rid of good players in their sophomore seasons. For that reason alone, I am skeptical about trading for JPJ, despite how much I advocated for him prior to the draft.
Maybe they’ll take our problem 2nd rounder from 2024?
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Doctor wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 2:06 am
Bootz wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:44 am I wouldn't move Dean unless it's for a premium pick. I doubt we re-sign him and he could net a larger deal elsewhere, which would be a positive in comp pick formula.

That said, any chance we're fooled by the contract year surge we often times see from players looking for new deals and give him one? Do we believe that the lightbulb finally came on in year 7?
I'm with this.

I wish we had kept Dean on his original cheap deal through next year. Easy money. But he's done right by us and we're doing by him. Hope he gets his bag somewhere. And us a comp pick.
Didn't he just take a pay cut to avoid getting traded?
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bucarican wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:55 pm
Doctor wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 2:06 am

I'm with this.

I wish we had kept Dean on his original cheap deal through next year. Easy money. But he's done right by us and we're doing by him. Hope he gets his bag somewhere. And us a comp pick.
Didn't he just take a pay cut to avoid getting traded?
No, he took it to avoid getting benched/cut.
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