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Doctor wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:06 pm He has a clear avenue to become a play calling coordinator ...
Guys typically become a DC by getting promoted from position coach.

Typically teams don't allow other teams to interview for lateral moves as they want to keep their staff intact.
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Kacey was a free agent.

Also, if Foote can catapult this to a HC job sooner rather than later (steelers?), that would put Kacey in line for the full DC role.
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Now that Coen is gone, who we liking for OC??
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BucsNBills wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:23 pm Now that Coen is gone, who we liking for OC??
Anyone we want. I'd hire from within though.
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BucsNBills wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:23 pm Now that Coen is gone, who we liking for OC??
Mike Gundy - the Oklahoma State HC - said he was looking for an OC during one offseason. Tired of flipping through his Rolodex, he went to ncaa.com and sorted by offensive PPG for the entire college ranks. D1, D2, D3.

Some random D2 school was blowing teams out. 50 points, 60 points. He went to YouTube, watched some film. “damn this offense looks great!”

Called the OC at that D2 school up. Talked some ball. Hired him.

Now, I’m not saying it’s always that easy. I’m saying it shouldn’t be very hard.
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With Coen gone, I expect the Bucs to return to where they were before. Mediocre
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:43 pm
BucsNBills wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:23 pm Now that Coen is gone, who we liking for OC??
Anyone we want. I'd hire from within though.
Who and why from within? Is it for the sake of continuity?
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Hopefully it's a minority so we can finally start benefiting from the NFLs racist anti-white hiring incentives.
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BucsNBills wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:54 pm Hopefully it's a minority so we can finally start benefiting from the NFLs racist anti-white hiring incentives.
Bootz, is that you?
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Phantom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:48 pm With Coen gone, I expect the Bucs to return to where they were before. Mediocre
Did he take the offense with him?
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Doctor wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:51 am
Phantom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:48 pm With Coen gone, I expect the Bucs to return to where they were before. Mediocre
Did he take the offense with him?
The playcalling and sequencing is more important than the playbook itself and that is what he took with him.
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Doctor wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:51 am
Phantom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:48 pm With Coen gone, I expect the Bucs to return to where they were before. Mediocre
Did he take the offense with him?
He Nerdluck'd them
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BucsNBills wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:54 pm Hopefully it's a minority so we can finally start benefiting from the NFLs racist anti-white hiring incentives.
You're not wrong. If we're going to get guys promoted every year we might as well get something for it. Stupid system, but should take advantage of it.

And can't be a Mexican. Those don't count.
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@Snake it ain't happening, brother lol

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Phantom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:48 pm With Coen gone, I expect the Bucs to return to where they were before. Mediocre
They’ll be fine. To me, Canales was the one who changed this offense and probably deserves more credit than Coen for how good it was this year. And whoever takes over will be fine because the pieces are in place. You have great WRs, a good OL and a good running game. Even Clyde Christensen could succeed with this offense.
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Folks, remember, nothing is official until it's inked and signed.

Lesson learned from Coen BS
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Phantom wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:32 am Folks, remember, nothing is official until it's inked and signed.

Lesson learned from Coen BS
Oh I can guarantee you that if the Jacksonville deal falls apart Coen will not be returning here.
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Bootz wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:37 am
Phantom wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:32 am Folks, remember, nothing is official until it's inked and signed.

Lesson learned from Coen BS
Oh I can guarantee you that if the Jacksonville deal falls apart Coen will not be returning here.
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Bootz wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:37 am
Phantom wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:32 am Folks, remember, nothing is official until it's inked and signed.

Lesson learned from Coen BS
Oh I can guarantee you that if the Jacksonville deal falls apart Coen will not be returning here.
Nothing would bring me a greater Friday laugh than hearing the deal fell apart. I know it won’t, but just saying.
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Primeminister wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:08 am
Bootz wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:37 am

Oh I can guarantee you that if the Jacksonville deal falls apart Coen will not be returning here.
Nothing would bring me a greater Friday laugh than hearing the deal fell apart. I know it won’t, but just saying.
I'm right there with you. I keep saying to myself "what if....."I don't even think the Bucs would have him back at his current deal.
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Bootz wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:17 am
Primeminister wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:08 am

Nothing would bring me a greater Friday laugh than hearing the deal fell apart. I know it won’t, but just saying.
I'm right there with you. I keep saying to myself "what if....."I don't even think the Bucs would have him back at his current deal.
Honestly at this point Khan could fuck Coen over. By burning bridges Coen left himself with zero leverage in negotiations. Khan knows you likely can’t go back home so your only play is his offer. This is similar to the Desean Watson negotiations. Once the Browns burns bridges with Baker they were fucked in those negotiations. They couldn’t afford to let Watson leave and be left with nothing.
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Primeminister wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:31 am
Bootz wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:17 am

I'm right there with you. I keep saying to myself "what if....."I don't even think the Bucs would have him back at his current deal.
Honestly at this point Khan could fuck Coen over. By burning bridges Coen left himself with zero leverage in negotiations. Khan knows you likely can’t go back home so your only play is his offer. This is similar to the Desean Watson negotiations. Once the Browns burns bridges with Baker they were fucked in those negotiations. They couldn’t afford to let Watson leave and be left with nothing.
Yeah it would be hilarious if the actual contract is a micb lower number promised and Coen is forced to take it.
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Primeminister wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:31 am
Bootz wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:17 am

I'm right there with you. I keep saying to myself "what if....."I don't even think the Bucs would have him back at his current deal.
Honestly at this point Khan could fuck Coen over. By burning bridges Coen left himself with zero leverage in negotiations. Khan knows you likely can’t go back home so your only play is his offer. This is similar to the Desean Watson negotiations. Once the Browns burns bridges with Baker they were fucked in those negotiations. They couldn’t afford to let Watson leave and be left with nothing.
The contract has been signed by Coen. Khan cannot fuck Coen over. He still has to pay Coen.
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With the departure of the Coen,
if the Bucs managed to at least six wins next season, if the defense hasn’t shown any improvement

Bowles will be fired, and there’s no way to excuse his performance.
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The sky is not falling. Wow.
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GreatTimes wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:58 pm
Primeminister wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:31 am

Honestly at this point Khan could fuck Coen over. By burning bridges Coen left himself with zero leverage in negotiations. Khan knows you likely can’t go back home so your only play is his offer. This is similar to the Desean Watson negotiations. Once the Browns burns bridges with Baker they were fucked in those negotiations. They couldn’t afford to let Watson leave and be left with nothing.
The contract has been signed by Coen. Khan cannot fuck Coen over. He still has to pay Coen.
Exactly. I have no ill feelings towards Coen. I genuinely wish him all the best in his future endeavors.
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Grahamburn wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:36 am The sky is not falling. Wow.
As I said, people are treating Liam Coen like he invited offense
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Like @Grahamburn said...
Can’t blame him for taking it. Many thanks for the incredible offensive year.

Looking forward to a new face and fresh ideas to lead our great players toward another incredible offensive year.

Onward.
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Phantom wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:14 am With the departure of the Coen,
if the Bucs managed to at least six wins next season, if the defense hasn’t shown any improvement

Bowles will be fired, and there’s no way to excuse his performance.
I’m sorry, could you repeat that?
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Buc2 wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:47 pm Like @Grahamburn said...
Can’t blame him for taking it. Many thanks for the incredible offensive year.

Looking forward to a new face and fresh ideas to lead our great players toward another incredible offensive year.

Onward.
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Bootz wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:17 pm As I said, people are treating Liam Coen like he invited offense
That's the problem.

Too many entitled people throwing their demands around instead of showing some decorum.
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__Chef__ wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:54 pm
Bootz wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:17 pm As I said, people are treating Liam Coen like he invited offense
That's the problem.

Too many entitled people throwing their demands around instead of showing some decorum.
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I'm fully aware it was a huge mistake letting Coen go, the Glazers chose poorly. All we can do is keep as much of the offensive staff in place, add another coach and hope for the best, but you're right ... We're not likely to have a top 5 offense or defense next year, so this just delayed the inevitable Bowles firing and cost our guys a wasted year.
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__Chef__ wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:01 pm We're not likely to have a top 5 offense or defense next year, so this just delayed the inevitable Bowles firing and cost our guys a wasted year.
Wasted year? Every playoffs our future HoFs have ever had has been with Todd Bowles. It's why they post IGs of not caring of Coen's departure and tell fans who don't know better to shut up the complaining.
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