Myles Garrett

[Phantom]

I regret to inform you that the Commanders all the pieces to get Garrett. What the Bucs have?

[Grahamburn]

Bucs should trade 2 1sts and get this done today. It's an absolute no brainer. This team is a dominant EDGE from winning 13 games and being set up for a deep playoff run. We can find back end help in other places. He's a top 3 player at a top 3 most important position in the game. Anyone against this has to be checked for head injury.

I'd sweeten it up even more.

Every 1st rounder over the next 4 years as long as our team makes the playoffs

At first this might sound extreme, it's meant to.

If the team is making the playoffs, those 1st rounders are low first rounders and we're obviously close enough to keep making a run.

If the team misses the playoffs, we get our first rounder back to hopefully add an impact player and make it back to the playoffs.

It's a win/win.

Conditional picks are a thing. You don’t see it much with 1st rounders when they’re dealt though.

[__Chef__]

I regret to inform you that the Commanders all the pieces to get Garrett. What the Bucs have?

A gamble.

[Grahamburn]

Bucs should trade 2 1sts and get this done today. It's an absolute no brainer. This team is a dominant EDGE from winning 13 games and being set up for a deep playoff run. We can find back end help in other places. He's a top 3 player at a top 3 most important position in the game. Anyone against this has to be checked for head injury.

Can anyone who’s saying to trade 2 1sts for Garrett point to a trade like this where it worked for the receiving team?

[__Chef__]

Bucs should trade 2 1sts and get this done today. It's an absolute no brainer. This team is a dominant EDGE from winning 13 games and being set up for a deep playoff run. We can find back end help in other places. He's a top 3 player at a top 3 most important position in the game. Anyone against this has to be checked for head injury.

Can anyone who’s saying to trade 2 1sts for Garrett point to a trade like this where it worked for the receiving team?

The receiving team is usually a dumpster fire and that's why the player wants out in the first place.

[Ken]

Bucs should trade 2 1sts and get this done today. It's an absolute no brainer. This team is a dominant EDGE from winning 13 games and being set up for a deep playoff run. We can find back end help in other places. He's a top 3 player at a top 3 most important position in the game. Anyone against this has to be checked for head injury.

Can anyone who’s saying to trade 2 1sts for Garrett point to a trade like this where it worked for the receiving team?

The Eagles trading for AJ Brown come to mind.

[Sooner06]

Bucs should trade 2 1sts and get this done today. It's an absolute no brainer. This team is a dominant EDGE from winning 13 games and being set up for a deep playoff run. We can find back end help in other places. He's a top 3 player at a top 3 most important position in the game. Anyone against this has to be checked for head injury.

Can anyone who’s saying to trade 2 1sts for Garrett point to a trade like this where it worked for the receiving team?

Rams. They won a SB trading two 1sts for Stafford.

[Grahamburn]

Hendrickson on McAfee right now. Doesn’t sound like a guy that’s gonna be a Bengal next year.

He’s from here by the way. Well, Apopka.

[Grahamburn]

Brown was a single first, correct?

Stafford of course. QB seems different. But, that one fits and they won a Super Bowl.

[Sooner06]

Brown was a single first, correct?

Stafford of course. QB seems different. But, that one fits and they won a Super Bowl.

i agree that QBs are probably different. It was just the first example that popped into my head.

[Ken]

Brown was a single first, correct?

Stafford of course. QB seems different. But, that one fits and they won a Super Bowl.

He was "only a first" but also a huge contract. The Eagles also packaged everything else they had in that draft for Jordan Davis, so they gave away 2 1sts, a 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th for AJ Brown and Jordan Davis.

[Sooner06]

The Rams gave up two 1st rd picks ('22/'23) a 3rd rd pick ('21) and Qb J. Goff to get Stafford.

[Ken]

Like a great QB can make the rest of your offense better, a dominant EDGE makes every player on your defense better. Fewer blitzes, more defenders in passing windows, QBs forced into quicker decisions where we dictate the ball... it immediately upgrades everyone on our defense. This isn't splurging for a safety or wide receiver. This is investing in probably the most important position on defense if you have an elite guy.

[mdb1958]

Brown was a single first, correct?

Stafford of course. QB seems different. But, that one fits and they won a Super Bowl.

He was "only a first" but also a huge contract. The Eagles also packaged everything else they had in that draft for Jordan Davis, so they gave away 2 1sts, a 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th for AJ Brown and Jordan Davis.

Make a note of how many winning seasons Philly has had since 2000.

[Grahamburn]

Like a great QB can make the rest of your offense better, a dominant EDGE makes every player on your defense better. Fewer blitzes, more defenders in passing windows, QBs forced into quicker decisions where we dictate the ball... it immediately upgrades everyone on our defense. This isn't splurging for a safety or wide receiver. This is investing in probably the most important position on defense if you have an elite guy.

I agree. I think I just like the more conservative approach of signing Reddick or Mack. Or Chase Young or Josh Sweat if we wanted a DE.

Or even trading for a DE like Hendrickson who should cost less.

I do also think that’s something we aren’t acknowledging enough. Garrett isn’t an OLB/EDGE in Bowles’ defense. He’s going to be replacing Logan Hall. Not JTS. Which, obviously still a huge upgrade. But, we still have a massive hole at OLB with no means to fill it if they trade for Garrett.

Can they still afford Mack or Reddick? Maybe.

I think you’re then clearly letting Godwin walk with no means of replacing him and you go into 2025 with Evans on the last year of his deal and no means of replacing him either.

[Grahamburn]

Can anyone who’s saying to trade 2 1sts for Garrett point to a trade like this where it worked for the receiving team?

The receiving team is usually a dumpster fire and that's why the player wants out in the first place.

I meant the team getting the veteran player.

[Sdbucs]

Bucs should trade 2 1sts and get this done today. It's an absolute no brainer. This team is a dominant EDGE from winning 13 games and being set up for a deep playoff run. We can find back end help in other places. He's a top 3 player at a top 3 most important position in the game. Anyone against this has to be checked for head injury.

This ^

2 1sts and 2 3rds even. Make it happen

[__Chef__]

Bucs should trade 2 1sts and get this done today. It's an absolute no brainer. This team is a dominant EDGE from winning 13 games and being set up for a deep playoff run. We can find back end help in other places. He's a top 3 player at a top 3 most important position in the game. Anyone against this has to be checked for head injury.

This ^

2 1sts and 2 3rds even. Make it happen

No to the 2 3rds. This team still has holes to fill and will in the next few years too. 2 guaranteed 1sts or conditional picks.

[Sooner06]

Not sure it will take multiple 1sts. I've been reading that it would take a 1st and a 3rd plus a player, or a 1st and two 3rds. Still a lot of capital, and you still have to give him a new contract, but it's Myles Garrett.


If I put my GM hat on, I'd probably still be more interested in Hendrickson, but I'd be dumb not to at least make a phonecall and make an offer on MG.

[Grahamburn]

The Browns have already shown you what it looks like to have Garrett and no first round picks for multiple years. They finally have one this year. 2nd overall.

[Grahamburn]

I doubt they trade him at all.

[Bootz]

The Bucs traded 2 1sts and 2 2nds for someone who didn't play a single down and won a Superbowl.

[__Chef__]

The Bucs traded 2 1sts and 2 2nds for someone who didn't play a single down and won a Superbowl.

Yeah, but those 4 picks hurt afterward.

[Grahamburn]

The Bucs traded 2 1sts and 2 2nds for someone who didn't play a single down and won a Superbowl.

So Mack’s 17 sacks in 2023 aren’t relevant but that trade is? You never cease to amaze.

[Sdbucs]

The Browns have already shown you what it looks like to have Garrett and no first round picks for multiple years. They finally have one this year. 2nd overall.

The Browns drafted Garret 1st overall.

VERY different situation. We are a playoff team in search of a DE, not a 1st overall team.

[Grahamburn]

The Bucs traded 2 1sts and 2 2nds for someone who didn't play a single down and won a Superbowl.

Yeah, but those 4 picks hurt afterward.

Nuked the organization for like the next 20 years almost!

[Grahamburn]

The Browns have already shown you what it looks like to have Garrett and no first round picks for multiple years. They finally have one this year. 2nd overall.

The Browns drafted Garret 1st overall.

VERY different situation. We are a playoff team in search of a DE, not a 1st overall team.

I’m not sure what you mean? They had him the year before drafting Baker. They’ve had him throughout his prime. They had him through these last 3 seasons where they did not have first round picks due to the Watson trade. They were a playoff team in 2021. They made that deal in 2022. Thats why they did it and they justified it the same way some of you are.

If we trade for Garrett we also will not have 1st round picks for probably the next two years plus possibly other picks.

He’ll need a highest paid defensive player ever level contract also.

They’re picking 2nd this year because they traded all those picks and gave Watson a huge contract.

[__Chef__]

Yeah, but those 4 picks hurt afterward.

Nuked the organization for like the next 20 years almost!

2005 we were a contender if not for a couple bad breaks, then lost our good position coaches, replaced them with scrubs and tanked our 2006 season, then 2007 got decent position coaches again, back to contention status, repeat in 2008, then hired the wrong HC and blew up the roster and never had a solid direction until BA and Brady arrived, and here we are.

[Phantom]

Nuked the organization for like the next 20 years almost!

2005 we were a contender if not for a couple bad breaks, then lost our good position coaches, replaced them with scrubs and tanked our 2006 season, then 2007 got decent position coaches again, back to contention status, repeat in 2008, then hired the wrong HC and blew up the roster and never had a solid direction until BA and Brady arrived, and here we are.

Actually, we were quite decent when Licht arrived here and managed to acquire Arians and Brady in Tampa four years later. (Brady 5 years later)

He got Mayfield here too


Winston was the one who set the team back. Koetter too

[Phantom]

Well damn those odds

[IchabodCrane84]

The Bucs traded 2 1sts and 2 2nds for someone who didn't play a single down and won a Superbowl.

Incorrect. Gruden was on the field for Dwight Smith's last pick 6.

[Central_Buc]

I regret to inform you that the Commanders all the pieces to get Garrett. What the Bucs have?

It doesn't make any sense for the Commanders to do this deal for a 29 year old. Jayden Daniels made up all their holes, I'm pretty sure they have an incomplete roster and want to use the draft to fix itbecause if and when they do, they will be the Chiefs of the NFC.

[Central_Buc]

Well damn those odds

That's if I was Washington but I'm not

Hey it'll be a good move for them but I'm for setting them back a few years.

[Central_Buc]

The Bucs traded 2 1sts and 2 2nds for someone who didn't play a single down and won a Superbowl.

Incorrect. Gruden was on the field for Dwight Smith's last pick 6.

Plus at the time he made Top 40 most beautiful people in People magazine.

[__Chef__]

Well damn those odds

Makes me wanna drop a note.