2025 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Offseason Thread

[Grahamburn]

[Snake]

Diaby is a lurker huh?

[__Chef__]

[Bootz]

Should've tweeted this on September 11th 2024....

[__Chef__]

Should've tweeted this on September 11th 2024....

For comedic effect, yes.

[Primeminister]

We are officially one of those teams that mismanaged the salary cap aka we're over the $275mil cap limit.

We were able to roll over about $6.6mil so our adjust cap limit is $281.6mil. But our current cap allocations are $285.1mil. Meaning we are $3.5mil over that cap.




0% chance that happens of course. But Licht will have some work to do.

We need like a battle plan thread. Of what we could realistically do to build a contender for 2025. On it..

I’d like to read that

[Grahamburn]

Let’s squint… and say that 17.4% pass rush win rate is pretty damn good (11th). Parsons and Hendrickson are 20% by comparison.

He’s 19th in overall PFF grade amongst EDGE rushers.

He needs a running mate to flush the QB his way. He needs the coverage to hold up a tick longer.

He’s close.

[Grahamburn]

We need like a battle plan thread. Of what we could realistically do to build a contender for 2025. On it..

I’d like to read that

It’s up. Go chime in! I’ll have a few more deeper thoughts this weekend with some numbers.

@Cheb is always really good for one of those in the offseason.

[Primeminister]

Let’s squint… and say that 17.4% pass rush win rate is pretty damn good (11th). Parsons and Hendrickson are 20% by comparison.

He’s 19th in overall PFF grade amongst EDGE rushers.

He needs a running mate to flush the QB his way. He needs the coverage to hold up a tick longer.

He’s close.

His win rate is excellent, but his finishing has to suck.

[__Chef__]

Let’s squint… and say that 17.4% pass rush win rate is pretty damn good (11th). Parsons and Hendrickson are 20% by comparison.

He’s 19th in overall PFF grade amongst EDGE rushers.

He needs a running mate to flush the QB his way. He needs the coverage to hold up a tick longer.

He’s close.

His win rate is excellent, but his finishing has to suck.

Does it have to?

[Doctor]

This is why we need to get back some man corners. Kacey spoke to how we schemes to player strengths, if you're not good at man not going to put you in man. Also why we can't keep relying on our 8th and 9th DB so much.

No one is a majority man team in the modern NFL, but it opens up so much of the playbook. A huge number of our drive killing plays that resulted in an INT or sack, came from man coverage. Just need to be able to sprinkle them back in at previous levels.

This is a great draft and FA class to find some.

[Phantom]

Well duh

Tampa Bay Buccaneers WR Chris Godwin reportedly has "no chance" of receiving the franchise tag this off-season after an injury-shortened 2024 season.

Godwin was having a strong 2024 season with 50 catches for 576 yards and five TDs in seven games before he suffered a dislocated ankle.

Via ESPN reporter Jenna Laine.

[CannonFire]

Well duh

Tampa Bay Buccaneers WR Chris Godwin reportedly has "no chance" of receiving the franchise tag this off-season after an injury-shortened 2024 season.

Godwin was having a strong 2024 season with 50 catches for 576 yards and five TDs in seven games before he suffered a dislocated ankle.

Via ESPN reporter Jenna Laine.

Does this tell us more about their thoughts on McMillan or are they trying to kick the can down the road? If Godwin doesn't re-sign, he's an $18M dead cap hit. If the team thinks McMillan could legitimately produce, then why not let Godwin walk? McMillan is only set to make what, a million? If they believe that McMillan can step into Godwin's shoes and have a 90/1100/7 season, then let Godwin walk. It would be like paying McMillan $19+M. To me, that's a reasonable cost for that production. Take the 1-year hit and be done with it. Odds are, Godwin will net us an extra 3rd round (maybe 4th), compensatory pick on top of that. If we do re-sign him, then we're either going to pay more than $18M this year or we're going to reduce that $18M to like, say $8M (example only), and cost more dead money in the future.

[Grahamburn]

Well duh

Does this tell us more about their thoughts on McMillan or are they trying to kick the can down the road? If Godwin doesn't re-sign, he's an $18M dead cap hit. If the team thinks McMillan could legitimately produce, then why not let Godwin walk? McMillan is only set to make what, a million? If they believe that McMillan can step into Godwin's shoes and have a 90/1100/7 season, then let Godwin walk. It would be like paying McMillan $19+M. To me, that's a reasonable cost for that production. Take the 1-year hit and be done with it. Odds are, Godwin will net us an extra 3rd round (maybe 4th), compensatory pick on top of that. If we do re-sign him, then we're either going to pay more than $18M this year or we're going to reduce that $18M to like, say $8M (example only), and cost more dead money in the future.

[Bootz]

Well duh

Does this tell us more about their thoughts on McMillan or are they trying to kick the can down the road? If Godwin doesn't re-sign, he's an $18M dead cap hit. If the team thinks McMillan could legitimately produce, then why not let Godwin walk? McMillan is only set to make what, a million? If they believe that McMillan can step into Godwin's shoes and have a 90/1100/7 season, then let Godwin walk. It would be like paying McMillan $19+M. To me, that's a reasonable cost for that production. Take the 1-year hit and be done with it. Odds are, Godwin will net us an extra 3rd round (maybe 4th), compensatory pick on top of that. If we do re-sign him, then we're either going to pay more than $18M this year or we're going to reduce that $18M to like, say $8M (example only), and cost more dead money in the future.

McMillan was never going to take over that spot. He doesn't excel in the slot. Doesn't do much to help over the middle or getting YAC. I wouldn't say this is an indictment on him as much as it is we're kinda desperate at WR. We might still target one early in the draft or FA even.

[CannonFire]

Does this tell us more about their thoughts on McMillan or are they trying to kick the can down the road? If Godwin doesn't re-sign, he's an $18M dead cap hit. If the team thinks McMillan could legitimately produce, then why not let Godwin walk? McMillan is only set to make what, a million? If they believe that McMillan can step into Godwin's shoes and have a 90/1100/7 season, then let Godwin walk. It would be like paying McMillan $19+M. To me, that's a reasonable cost for that production. Take the 1-year hit and be done with it. Odds are, Godwin will net us an extra 3rd round (maybe 4th), compensatory pick on top of that. If we do re-sign him, then we're either going to pay more than $18M this year or we're going to reduce that $18M to like, say $8M (example only), and cost more dead money in the future.

So kicking the can down the road?

[Bootz]

So kicking the can down the road?

With interest

[Grahamburn]

Just don't let Camarda kick it.

[Backside]

So kicking the can down the road?

Literally nothing has changed except we got more time. What would have happened today if we hadn’t reached a deal will now happen in a couple of weeks, unless we can resign him before then.

Not sure why the fear mongering when this was nothing but a positive development.

[Grahamburn]

And an ever increasing salary cap.

[Bootz]

And an ever increasing salary cap.

There's irony saying that when we are still OVER that ever increasing salary cap.

[Grahamburn]

And an ever increasing salary cap.

There's irony saying that when we are still OVER that ever increasing salary cap.

For now. That will change. You know that though.

[Grahamburn]

If they can get a Godwin deal done before the extended date on 3/14/25 $11M of the dead cap charge can move into future years.

[CannonFire]

So kicking the can down the road?

Literally nothing has changed except we got more time. What would have happened today if we hadn’t reached a deal will now happen in a couple of weeks, unless we can resign him before then.

Not sure why the fear mongering when this was nothing but a positive development.

What's changed is now we know for a fact, they're actively looking to re-sign him. That was not known until this extension.

Not really fear mongering of any type. I was just posing the question of does this tell us anything about how they view McMillan.

[Bootz]

There's irony saying that when we are still OVER that ever increasing salary cap.

For now. That will change. You know that though.

Of course it will because we'll continue to dig deeper holes. Next year it'll be $15mil over. Year after even more and then after that even more.

Will we have anything to show for it is the true question.

[Grahamburn]

Literally nothing has changed except we got more time. What would have happened today if we hadn’t reached a deal will now happen in a couple of weeks, unless we can resign him before then.

Not sure why the fear mongering when this was nothing but a positive development.

What's changed is now we know for a fact, they're actively looking to re-sign him. That was not known until this extension.

Not really fear mongering of any type. I was just posing the question of does this tell us anything about how they view McMillan.

It’s pretty clear they intend to sign him and that they want it done before that day so they have the roughly $11M extra to sign someone else.

Good news assuming it all goes according to plan.

[CannonFire]

What's changed is now we know for a fact, they're actively looking to re-sign him. That was not known until this extension.

Not really fear mongering of any type. I was just posing the question of does this tell us anything about how they view McMillan.

It’s pretty clear they intend to sign him and that they want it done before that day so they have the roughly $11M extra to sign someone else.

Good news assuming it all goes according to plan.

That could be the case, but I think the terms of the deal matters. Meaning, if they give him a 4-year deal with voidable years in 2029 & 2030, that tells me something different than a 2 year deal with a voidable 2027 year.

In the first scenario, that tells me they're likely to let Evans walk after next year and McMillan would be inline to take his place as the outside receiver. It tells me that they're fine with the teams finances, as they sit, in 2029 & 2030.

If it's the latter, that tells me what you just said. It also tells me that they're drafting a 1st Rd WR next year or 2nd Rd WR this year (maybe 1st this year depending on who's on the board at the time).

[Backside]

Literally nothing has changed except we got more time. What would have happened today if we hadn’t reached a deal will now happen in a couple of weeks, unless we can resign him before then.

Not sure why the fear mongering when this was nothing but a positive development.

What's changed is now we know for a fact, they're actively looking to re-sign him. That was not known until this extension.

Not really fear mongering of any type. I was just posing the question of does this tell us anything about how they view McMillan.

Was referring to others with the fear mongering comment. I’m definitely glad they are trying to re-sign Godwin and that he seems very open to the idea.

[Bootz]

Mike Caldwell is back as ILB coach.

[Buc2]

Mike Caldwell is back as ILB coach.

I don’t follow our position coaches very closely. Should this be considered a good thing?

[Central_Buc]

Mike Caldwell is back as ILB coach.

I don’t follow our position coaches very closely. Should this be considered a good thing?

[Yt][/yt]

[Bootz]

Mike Caldwell is back as ILB coach.

I don’t follow our position coaches very closely. Should this be considered a good thing?

He was our inside backer coach when we won the SB.

[Buc2]

I don’t follow our position coaches very closely. Should this be considered a good thing?

He was our inside backer coach when we won the SB.

He’s welcome back, then.

[Central_Buc]

Bosa might be a good pickup, he was released by the Chargers

[Snake]

the name has really surpassed the performance.