Baker Mayfield: PAID

[real bucs fan]

Worst case, we tag him at 35M for 2024 and we run it back.

And this is why I think he’ll cost less than that. Both sides likely want some term.

Worse case than that is we lose AWJr. Because we did something silly like tag Mayfield.

Either commit to him or don’t. The tag doesn’t make much sense.

We aren’t losing AWJ lol

The tag is a decent option for Mayfield in case he demands 40+ million, that’s all I’m saying

[Phantom]

Worse case than that is we lose AWJr. Because we did something silly like tag Mayfield.

Either commit to him or don’t. The tag doesn’t make much sense.

We aren’t losing AWJ lol

The tag is a decent option for Mayfield in case he demands 40+ million, that’s all I’m saying

Pretty much this, I think franchise tag is a better option.

Kirk Cousins is available. I would sign him in an instant.

[Primeminister]

Worse case than that is we lose AWJr. Because we did something silly like tag Mayfield.

Either commit to him or don’t. The tag doesn’t make much sense.

We aren’t losing AWJ lol

The tag is a decent option for Mayfield in case he demands 40+ million, that’s all I’m saying

The tag removes all cap flexibility so it’s the worst option for the team. We would hav wit eat the full $35M next season as opposed to signing him to a $40M multi year deal that only counts $15M against the cap. We should either sign Baker to a deal or pass on him altogether.

[Selmon Rules]

As for being able to win with Baker, he just showed us we can. Of all of the problems this year, even at his worst he was pretty far down the list and at his best the dude BALLED.

He led us to a top 8 spot, and despite the last INT, the loss wasn’t on him. The “you need an elite QB” argument is skewed by Brady and Mahomes. Outside of Brady and Mahomes the SB QBs the last decade have been:

Purdy
Hurts
Stafford
Burrow
Goff
Foles
Ryan
Newton
A handicapped Manning
Wilson x2

That’s not an elite group.

You just listed 5 1st overall picks.

And 4 that weren't even first rounders, 5 if you count Wilson's two appearances

[GreatTimes]

Baker should test the free agent waters before signing a contract.

[Snake]

Baker should test the free agent waters before signing a contract.

Almost everyone should do that

[Babeinbucland]

As for being able to win with Baker, he just showed us we can. Of all of the problems this year, even at his worst he was pretty far down the list and at his best the dude BALLED.

He led us to a top 8 spot, and despite the last INT, the loss wasn’t on him. The “you need an elite QB” argument is skewed by Brady and Mahomes. Outside of Brady and Mahomes the SB QBs the last decade have been:

Purdy
Hurts
Stafford
Burrow
Goff
Foles
Ryan
Newton
A handicapped Manning
Wilson x2

That’s not an elite group.

How some on this board cannot comprehend this is beyond me

[Bootz]

Baker should test the free agent waters before signing a contract.

The Bucs should let him. Might save them some money when he eventually re-ups.

[Grahamburn]

Baker should test the free agent waters before signing a contract.

The Bucs should let him. Might save them some money when he eventually re-ups.

I’d think they’d offer him something prior. In good faith. If he doesn’t take it that’s fine. Give us an opportunity to match anything though.

[Bootz]

The Bucs should let him. Might save them some money when he eventually re-ups.

I’d think they’d offer him something prior. In good faith. If he doesn’t take it that’s fine. Give us an opportunity to match anything though.

That's how both sides would get the best most fair deal.

[Babeinbucland]

“My last pass I threw was to Derrick Barnes in Detroit.”
- Baker Mayfield making jokes at his own expense at the Pro Bowl Games

[Grahamburn]

Add Pro Bowl MVP to the resume.

[Phantom]

Yup, he did great. Geno Smith was awful though.

[Snake]

When Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield are both playing in your pro bowl…Says all you need to know about the pro bowl.

[kaimaru]

When Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield are both playing in your pro bowl…Says all you need to know about the pro bowl.

That only teams with winning records sends QBs to the game?

[Grahamburn]

When Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield are both playing in your pro bowl…Says all you need to know about the pro bowl.

Lighten up, Francis.

[kaimaru]

Wow, another milestone for Bake. You're surely rocking that Nick VP @Snake I mean Nickelodeon is all you watch, right?

[Snake]

MVP of a flag football game. the Baker acolytes are really grasping for straws, huh?

[BuccaNOLEer]

When Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield are both playing in your pro bowl…Says all you need to know about the pro bowl.

I didn't even bother to watch. It's become a circus. And with the way the NFL is going, this is how it's going to eventually be in the regular season as well.

They need to bring the Pro Bowl back to where it was... the week after the Super Bowl. That way, all teams players can participate and the game can serve its original purpose as a "cool down" game where fans could see their favorite stars play and have fun one more time before settling in for the offseason.

[Grahamburn]

MVP of a flag football game. the Baker acolytes are really grasping for straws, huh?

At least he wins them. Your boy J.J. always overshadowed by others in the big moments.

[Snake]

You’re talking about a player who hasn’t even been drafted vs a guy who is in year 6.

Get out of your feelings.

[Doctor]

MVP of a flag football game. the Baker acolytes are really grasping for straws, huh?

Just yet another thing to add to the long list of things our bad players "lucked" into this year is all.

[Grahamburn]

I'd feel pretty good about 3 years, $100M. $60M guaranteed.

[Sdbucs]

I do think baker deserves comeback player over hamlin and flacco

[acmillis]

1 Year, $31,158,000 fully guaranteed.

[Grahamburn]

1 Year, $31,158,000 fully guaranteed.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

[Bootz]

1 Year, $31,158,000 fully guaranteed.

Stupid on so many levels. Namely dedicating that much cap room to 1 player.

[BucsNBills]

QBs are expensive. It's the way of the league. I'd rather spend money on Baker, a top 10 QB, then rolling with Trash or drafting a QB at 26.

We can win with Baker. We should build around him so we can sustain some success, which despite our 2 SB wins is something that still eludes the franchise.

[Doctor]

The tag isn't out of the question and honestly one of the better business options if we are really so far apart, but I don't think we'll be. You also want to be able to leverage the tag in every other contract talk too. Ultimately, you always prefer to never have to use it at all if you can avoid it.

[Grahamburn]

QBs are expensive. It's the way of the league. I'd rather spend money on Baker, a top 10 QB, then rolling with Trash or drafting a QB at 26.

We can win with Baker. We should build around him so we can sustain some success, which despite our 2 SB wins is something that still eludes the franchise.

I like going to the playoffs every year.

Some of these guys must miss drafting in the top 10 perennially? When we draft this late it makes it more difficult to put together an accurate mock draft I guess.

[Bootz]

QBs are expensive. It's the way of the league. I'd rather spend money on Baker, a top 10 QB, then rolling with Trash or drafting a QB at 26.

We can win with Baker. We should build around him so we can sustain some success, which despite our 2 SB wins is something that still eludes the franchise.

Expensive in terms of cash value. Teams mitigate that in terms of the salary cap. Again 12 QBs had "average salaries" of at least $40mil and not 1 of them had a cap hit that even reached $40mil. Just 3 had cap hits over $30mil.

[Grahamburn]

And as much as it's "just business" there are feelings involved here too. Players don't like the franchise tag for a reason. A one year deal doesn't show a lot of faith. Either sign Baker or let him go somewhere else. He earned that.

[Doctor]

QBs are expensive. It's the way of the league. I'd rather spend money on Baker, a top 10 QB, then rolling with Trash or drafting a QB at 26.

We can win with Baker. We should build around him so we can sustain some success, which despite our 2 SB wins is something that still eludes the franchise.

I like going to the playoffs every year.

Some of these guys must miss drafting in the top 10 perennially? When we draft this late it makes it more difficult to put together an accurate mock draft I guess.

That must be it. These are master mock drafter with years of training and here we come ruining it by winning. Now what will they do for 3 months? They much prefer mocking in November than playing football in January.

[acmillis]

1 Year, $31,158,000 fully guaranteed.

Stupid on so many levels. Namely dedicating that much cap room to 1 player.

STOP with this shit. It's not your money. We can pay him that and still afford to sign everybody we need to that's already in-house and FAs that we want. I beleive @Cheb broke down how we can get to over $100M in cap pretty easily.

The cap is a non-issue when it comes to tagging Mayfield.

[Snake]

The bill comes due at some point. See: last season.