***2025 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Official Season Thread***

[Doctor]

Ramirez looked way too pedestrian since post IR. Which is devastating when you were already a "hustle" player. Sad.

[Bootz]

The 6th round selection suggests he was pedestrian before that.

[mdb1958]

So anyone new we got were free agents.

[Doctor]

Trey Palmer was also a 6th rounder but okay.

You enjoy punching down way too much. You should talk to someone about that.

[Phantom]

So anyone new we got were free agents.

I thought you were smarter than that? Google is your best friend.

[mdb1958]

Jayson Jones 6'6" 335

Hope he does well.

[mdb1958]

So anyone new we got were free agents.

I thought you were smarter than that? Google is your best friend.

Who did we claim off waivers

[13F11B]

Trey Palmer was also a 6th rounder but okay.

You enjoy punching down way too much. You should talk to someone about that.

What round was Brady taken in?

[TiccyBuc]

Trey Palmer was also a 6th rounder but okay.

You enjoy punching down way too much. You should talk to someone about that.

What round was Brady taken in?

Brady was the ultimate exception not the norm.

[13F11B]

What round was Brady taken in?

Brady was the ultimate exception not the norm.

I agree. The best example of overachieving.

[Primeminister]

Yeah but is Kieft that important a blocker?

No, no he's not. His on field snaps have decreased each year he's been here. He plays more STs now. But no telling how good or bad of a ST player he is. I question every week why is he here. Seems like a waste of a spot.

Yeah that was my point. Ko is not worth being TE4 in a mediocre room.

[Doctor]

What round was Brady taken in?

Brady was the ultimate exception not the norm.

More than that, he's IS the example of how we don't know shit. Bledsoe doesn't get hurt we never have a GOAT. How insane is that?

[Snake]

Brady was actually outplaying Bledsoe in camp. Bledsoe was regressing early in season too. Holding onto the ball too long, etc. It would’ve happened eventually.

[Bootz]

Brady was actually outplaying Bledsoe in camp. Bledsoe was regressing early in season too. Holding onto the ball too long, etc. It would’ve happened eventually.

Yup. Very easy to forget the Pats stared 2001 0-2, the Jets game being the one Bledsoe got knocked out. It's likely they never go on a winning streak if he isn't hurt. Brady absolutely would've gotten a shot that year.

[Doctor]

This tells you just how infantile hero worshipping thinking is. Bledsoe was fresh off signing a 10 year $100M contract. Brady won a literal super bowl and it was STILL a huge controversy to not go back to Bledsoe.

But savior fans would have you think Brady would've just "out practiced" his way on to the field. GTFOH.

He would've finished his 3 year deal and gone on to be the back up QB under Jeff Fisher.

Dude won 3 SBs and STILL was called an overrated system QB. But yeah, those training camp reps would've put him over the top. Okay pal.

[Snake]

You keep saying 10 year contract. Clearly it didn’t mean much in the end. The team had ways to get out of the deal too. The first being after a few years IIRC. Did he finish the 10 year deal? No.

Belichick has said that Brady outperformed Bledsoe in the preseason of that year. Drew had a bad training camp. Drew had (much) more experience, and the new contract, so he was given preference. In the Gary Myers book, he talks about Belichick considering naming Brady the week one starter. But lacking the credibility to do so at the time.

If DB never gets injured, there’s a decent chance he plays himself out of a job during that season. Or, a better chance Tom takes the job the next preseason.

Brady was kept on the team as a fourth quarterback during his rookie season. This was not normal. Then, or now. They saw something in him. And it all fits a narrative that he was on a path to take the starting job given his rapid progress in the system.

[Bootz]

This tells you just how infantile hero worshipping thinking is. Bledsoe was fresh off signing a 10 year $100M contract. Brady won a literal super bowl and it was STILL a huge controversy to not go back to Bledsoe.

But savior fans would have you think Brady would've just "out practiced" his way on to the field. GTFOH.

He would've finished his 3 year deal and gone on to be the back up QB under Jeff Fisher.

Dude won 3 SBs and STILL was called an overrated system QB. But yeah, those training camp reps would've put him over the top. Okay pal.

You're kind of fabricating and re-writing the narrative. That 10 year deal wasn't what it seemed to be. It was a bunch of team options that had to be activated. As far as guaranteed money went, only $14mil was guaranteed out of $103mil. The true purpose of the deal was so he could say he got more than Favre, who also signed a $100mil weeks prior.

I don't recall it being a controversy. In fact this was one of the few times it seemed that all sides understood the situation. They sent him to a division rival and Pats fans were never bitter and even cheered Bledsoe when he returned.

@Snake is 100% right here.

[Phantom]

This tells you just how infantile hero worshipping thinking is. Bledsoe was fresh off signing a 10 year $100M contract. Brady won a literal super bowl and it was STILL a huge controversy to not go back to Bledsoe.

But savior fans would have you think Brady would've just "out practiced" his way on to the field. GTFOH.

He would've finished his 3 year deal and gone on to be the back up QB under Jeff Fisher.

Dude won 3 SBs and STILL was called an overrated system QB. But yeah, those training camp reps would've put him over the top. Okay pal.

[Grahamburn]

Do we really need to argue about what actually happened with the 2001 Patriots, Tom Brady, and Drew Bledsoe in the 2025 Bucs Thread?

Do we really? Who gives a fuck? Nobody wins.

[Doctor]

Its like every time one tries to talk actual football or the importance of coaching, scheme, fit, timing, health, opportunity, and sheer dumb luck, and how they all play a role in the sport some idiot busts through like the Kool aid man with their shallow "you either have it or you don't" chosen ones nonsense.

[mdb1958]

Just 2 spots left. Will likely go towards edge rushers.

I have a feeling Majors will take up one of them in three weeks.

Over on ESPN for our roster they have 10 players (per Bowles) as IR or out. I do not see that anywhere else and as far as I can find out we have 3 on IR. Are the other 7 just hanging in limbo?

[Pirate Life]

I have a feeling Majors will take up one of them in three weeks.

Over on ESPN for our roster they have 10 players (per Bowles) as IR or out. I do not see that anywhere else and as far as I can find out we have 3 on IR. Are the other 7 just hanging in limbo?

The word or indicates there are choices and options. So, if you only find 3 out of 10 on IR, we can infer the other seven are just out and not on IR.

[mdb1958]

Over on ESPN for our roster they have 10 players (per Bowles) as IR or out. I do not see that anywhere else and as far as I can find out we have 3 on IR. Are the other 7 just hanging in limbo?

The word or indicates there are choices and options. So, if you only find 3 out of 10 on IR, we can infer the other seven are just out and not on IR.

Would we decide to put 7 more on IR? Here are the 7.

Jaden Smith WR
Jake Majors C
O'Neal OT
Grier LB
Farr CB
Funderburk CB
Parodie CB



To me that adds future depth if needed. Also I think none have any serious injury.

[Snake]

Do we really need to argue about what actually happened with the 2001 Patriots, Tom Brady, and Drew Bledsoe in the 2025 Bucs Thread?

Do we really? Who gives a fuck? Nobody wins.

Why do you hate football?

[Bootz]

Do we really need to argue about what actually happened with the 2001 Patriots, Tom Brady, and Drew Bledsoe in the 2025 Bucs Thread?

Do we really? Who gives a fuck? Nobody wins.

Why do you hate football?

Or healthy debate for that matter?

[Pirate Life]

The word or indicates there are choices and options. So, if you only find 3 out of 10 on IR, we can infer the other seven are just out and not on IR.

Would we decide to put 7 more on IR? Here are the 7.

Jaden Smith WR
Jake Majors C
O'Neal OT
Grier LB
Farr CB
Funderburk CB
Parodie CB



To me that adds future depth if needed. Also I think none have any serious injury.

Can’t put them on IR if we released them.

[mdb1958]

Would we decide to put 7 more on IR? Here are the 7.

Jaden Smith WR
Jake Majors C
O'Neal OT
Grier LB
Farr CB
Funderburk CB
Parodie CB



To me that adds future depth if needed. Also I think none have any serious injury.

Can’t put them on IR if we released them.

ESPN would like to know how high you rate your explanation to mdb.

[__Chef__]

... shallow "you either have it or you don't" chosen ones nonsense.

There's no doubt that talented players have slipped through the cracks for one reason or another over the years, and we have no idea how good they could have been. Sometimes people rise to the occasion, sometimes they fold. Sometimes they rise 6/10 and fold 4/10. Sometimes they never get a chance to rise in the first place.

Many variables at play all the time. As someone stated a while ago, does Brady become TOM BRADY if the Browns draft him? Probably not.

[Central_Buc]

I recall during a special they had with Brady and Charles Woodson sitting in Bradys living room remembering the tuck rule together that Brady said something along the lines if the tuck rule went the other way, he wasn't sure he was going into next year as the #1. So there probably was a possibility of uncertainty.

[mdb1958]

mdb contemplates what trigger word is needed for them to talk about the 2025 Buc season..

[Onthebrink]

Why do you hate football?

Or healthy debate for that matter?

Maybe they just want "The Offical 2025 Bucs Season Thread" to be about the Bucs and not about the 2001 Patriots and Tom Brady. Did they claim that they didn't like healthy debate? Didn't seem as if that was their point to me. What do they call it when someone creates an argument that the original person never made? They attack the fake argument instead of their actual point. Dorothy and Toto might know.

[Doctor]

I don't know how healthy it is, sometimes we're just monkeys slinging poo at each other.

But natural conversations flow into tangents all the time, even in message boards. And it's not like there SO much to talk about at the moment that we need to be topic nazis.

[Grahamburn]

I don't know how healthy it is, sometimes we're just monkeys slinging poo at each other.

But natural conversations flow into tangents all the time, even in message boards. And it's not like there SO much to talk about at the moment that we need to be topic nazis.

I’m sure I’ve been guilty of it. I do try to stay relevant and on topic though.

Seems silly to have that argument and it’s annoying if you’re looking for news or conversation about the Bucs to be bombarded by whether or not Tom Brady was going to lose his job to Drew Bledsoe if this or that and contract and blah blah blah.

[MRM]

This is a very good roster. The only part that concerns me is safety with the injuries there and a drop off from the first 2 or 3 guys to the next ones. Just need the injury bug to stay away this year.

[Grahamburn]

This is a very good roster. The only part that concerns me is safety with the injuries there and a drop off from the first 2 or 3 guys to the next ones. Just need the injury bug to stay away this year.

Nice to finally be healthy on defense going into a season. Atlanta and Houston’s lines aren’t great. Let’s get some pressure on those guys, cover, and get our hands on some footballs.

Wish everyone were 100% and I’d feel better. Hoping to at least split the first two with Wirfs out. Hopeful he’s back for week 3.

Think that D might need to carry us early.