Byron Leftwich: Hired

[Snake]

Yeah the guy who leaked this is now walking it back. Lmao. Maybe it was their way of exposing the source.

[Monero]

From what I read there's a hiccup with contract details. They basically had Byron hired but there's something in the contract that bungled it all. Some say it's money, others are saying it's about their GM. I really hope they get this worked out because I was celebrating having the comp pick and Leftwich gone.

[The Outsider]

Gonna break Lawrence...

Well, if JAX doesn't get him a better line and some receivers it doesn't matter who is coach is. Hard to believe Leftwich will be a step down from Meyer though. Leftwich may not be a playcalling genius but he seems like a pretty smart dude so I'm going to wait to deem him a failure until I see the staff he assembles and the abortion of a draft class Baalke puts together.

[Swashbuckler]

Every coach in the league would do almost anything to coach Trevor Lawrence and they go with Lefty. Jags gonna Jags

[Dread]

Yeah the guy who leaked this is now walking it back. Lmao. Maybe it was their way of exposing the source.

It sounds like a negotiation/power struggle. Jags owner Shad Khan wants Bryon but it seems Byron doesn't want to work with GM Trent Balke. Or if he does he wants to ensure he has influence on the roster.

So it could happen, or Shad might side with Balke and hire Fangio or someone else.

[Snake]

Ahh, the classic power struggle.

[Dread]

Ahh, the classic power struggle.

If Shad Khan feels the best HC for Trevor Lawrence is Leftwich then that will what happens, or atleast should.

If the Jags decision is being influence by who works best with Trent Balke instead of who is best for Trevor Lawrence then they are truly lost as a franchise.

It's not like Trent Balke is some great GM with a track record worthy of loyalty. He's regarded as an asshole in many NFL circles but great at kissing the right (Owner's) ass.

[Defense5599]

Ahh, the classic power struggle.

If Shad Khan feels the best HC for Trevor Lawrence is Leftwich then that will what happens, or atleast should.

If the Jags decision is being influence by who works best with Trent Balke instead of who is best for Trevor Lawrence then they are truly lost as a franchise.

It's not like Trent Balke is some great GM with a track record worthy of loyalty. He's regarded as an asshole in many NFL circles but great at kissing the right (Owner's) ass.

You're right about this one. He's the reason Jim Harbaugh left the Niners to go back into the college ranks after he took them to a Super Bowl and three consecutive NFC Title games.

[Crocaneers]

Ahh, the classic power struggle.

If Shad Khan feels the best HC for Trevor Lawrence is Leftwich then that will what happens, or atleast should.

If the Jags decision is being influence by who works best with Trent Balke instead of who is best for Trevor Lawrence then they are truly lost as a franchise.

It's not like Trent Balke is some great GM with a track record worthy of loyalty. He's regarded as an asshole in many NFL circles but great at kissing the right (Owner's) ass.

I hear Balke is wanting more control that Lefty wants to give up. Power struggle may lose out.

Question is does BA take Lefty back?

[Monero]

[uscbucsfan]

If Shad Khan feels the best HC for Trevor Lawrence is Leftwich then that will what happens, or atleast should.

If the Jags decision is being influence by who works best with Trent Balke instead of who is best for Trevor Lawrence then they are truly lost as a franchise.

It's not like Trent Balke is some great GM with a track record worthy of loyalty. He's regarded as an asshole in many NFL circles but great at kissing the right (Owner's) ass.

I hear Balke is wanting more control that Lefty wants to give up. Power struggle may lose out.

Question is does BA take Lefty back?

Lefty hasn't left.

"More control"...A first time HC is asking for personnel control beyond a typical coach?

That doesn't sound right.

[Defense5599]

I hear Balke is wanting more control that Lefty wants to give up. Power struggle may lose out.

Question is does BA take Lefty back?

Lefty hasn't left.

"More control"...A first time HC is asking for personnel control beyond a typical coach?

That doesn't sound right.

Apparently Leftwich's contract stated that Ballke had the final decision on which assistant coaches can be hired. That's not normal in NFL circles. The GM usually will have final say over player personnel (with heavy input from the coaching staff). But the head coach usually decides on his staff of assistants. If Jax wants the GM to have final say on assistant coaches, they are playing a dangerous game of chicken. Matter of fact, they are tying their hands by keeping Ballke on board.

[uscbucsfan]

Lefty hasn't left.

"More control"...A first time HC is asking for personnel control beyond a typical coach?

That doesn't sound right.

Apparently Leftwich's contract stated that Ballke had the final decision on which assistant coaches can be hired. That's not normal in NFL circles. The GM usually will have final say over player personnel (with heavy input from the coaching staff). But the head coach usually decides on his staff of assistants. If Jax wants the GM to have final say on assistant coaches, they are playing a dangerous game of chicken. Matter of fact, they are tying their hands by keeping Ballke on board.

That would make more sense, still he hasn't left Tampa...there's no "taking him back" required.

[Dread]

The Lunchbox haters will really ramp it up if this happens

I was waiting for a new team to report interest in Leftwhich while the Jags fuck it up.

[Monero]

Florio is reporting that Baalke is out and Adrian Wilson is in as GM

If true, leftwich HC announcement should be official very quickly.

[Dread]

Apparently Leftwich's contract stated that Ballke had the final decision on which assistant coaches can be hired. That's not normal in NFL circles. The GM usually will have final say over player personnel (with heavy input from the coaching staff). But the head coach usually decides on his staff of assistants. If Jax wants the GM to have final say on assistant coaches, they are playing a dangerous game of chicken. Matter of fact, they are tying their hands by keeping Ballke on board.

That would make more sense, still he hasn't left Tampa...there's no "taking him back" required.

Completely absurd that they wouldn't let a new HC they hired not be allowed to hire his own staff of assistants. That's not normal.

The roster control thing is understandable. Imo the GM should have the 'final say', but if the FO and Coaches aren't in sync on 99% of those decisions already then all of them will be looking for new jobs before too long.

[Dread]

Sounds like Baalke is out. Guess he thought he had more leverage than he actually did.

Good move by Leftwich, know your own value and don't settle for less. Especially when settling would be a hindrance to your future success.

[Snake]

Adrian Wilson, the former safety for the Cardinals, is the GM? Wow

[Dread]

Adrian Wilson, the former safety for the Cardinals, is the GM? Wow

That's two black GM in the past two days after the Vikings hired that guy from the Browns yesterday.

The 3rd round of the draft might have 100 picks with all these comp picks .

[Monero]

This seems like a very strange rule.

[The Outsider]

They should interview Leftwich for the GM job to get that out of the way.

[kaimaru]

And if Bowles gets hired too we will get an extra FOUR 3rd round picks.

This is incorrect. If they are both hired in the same off-season then we would get 1 additional 3rd rounded tacked onto the next year. Now, if Bowles is hired next year.....

[Dread]

They should interview Leftwich for the GM job to get that out of the way.

Modern problems require modern solutions

[Dread]

And if Bowles gets hired too we will get an extra FOUR 3rd round picks.

This is incorrect. If they are both hired in the same off-season then we would get 1 additional 3rd rounded tacked onto the next year. Now, if Bowles is hired next year.....

Do you have a link?

My understanding is for every minority that is hired to a HC or GM job specifically the franchise they came from would get a 3rd round comp pick in the upcoming April's draft PLUS the following year.

Two comp picks in total per minority candidate.

Where does it say it's limited to one candidate as you describe?

[kaimaru]

This is incorrect. If they are both hired in the same off-season then we would get 1 additional 3rd rounded tacked onto the next year. Now, if Bowles is hired next year.....

Do you have a link?

My understanding is for every minority that is hired to a HC or GM job specifically the franchise they came from would get a 3rd round comp pick in the upcoming April's draft PLUS the following year.

Two comp picks in total per minority candidate.

Where does it say it's limited to one candidate as you describe?

It's all over the internet, but I will post a link.

"A team that loses two minority staffers to head coach and general manager positions would receive three third-round picks."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 234064002/

[kaimaru]

Florio is reporting that Baalke is out and Adrian Wilson is in as GM

If true, leftwich HC announcement should be official very quickly.

I'm surprised it's taking this long. If there are some things that your #1 choice for head coach is asking for, then firing someone and hiring his demand for GM would be the last thing on the list.

[bucarican]

Stud Hire! Guy will do great, he will hire some vets around him like Caldwell to help that transition, but he has QB and a great position in the draft. Polar opposite than Urban the SCAM

[Dread]

Do you have a link?

My understanding is for every minority that is hired to a HC or GM job specifically the franchise they came from would get a 3rd round comp pick in the upcoming April's draft PLUS the following year.

Two comp picks in total per minority candidate.

Where does it say it's limited to one candidate as you describe?

It's all over the internet, but I will post a link.

"A team that loses two minority staffers to head coach and general manager positions would receive three third-round picks."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 234064002/

Boo!! They don't let them stack in the same year but rather successive years.

So it's not as beneficial for a franchise to have more than one minority staffer get hired away to HC or GM job per offseason?

What if Bowles comes back one more year and becomes a HC somewhere next offseason? We'd still have the 2nd comp pick for Byron next April.

[MJW]

Lefty hasn't left.

"More control"...A first time HC is asking for personnel control beyond a typical coach?

That doesn't sound right.

Apparently Leftwich's contract stated that Ballke had the final decision on which assistant coaches can be hired. That's not normal in NFL circles. The GM usually will have final say over player personnel (with heavy input from the coaching staff). But the head coach usually decides on his staff of assistants. If Jax wants the GM to have final say on assistant coaches, they are playing a dangerous game of chicken. Matter of fact, they are tying their hands by keeping Ballke on board.

That's downright bizarre, but I've seen it before. Usually the only coaches who go for that are coaches who know they have no chance of getting hired any other way. That's not Leftwich right now.

[OneBuc]

From what I read there's a hiccup with contract details. They basically had Byron hired but there's something in the contract that bungled it all. Some say it's money, others are saying it's about their GM. I really hope they get this worked out because I was celebrating having the comp pick and Leftwich gone.

It would be best to keep the "main ingredients" here for another season, fill key holes on the roster. Let TB12 see if he can win yet another season (tough schedule though). Just getting into the playoffs might be considered a success.

This team owes the fans a succession plan for TB12 and Arians - otherwise, Bucs fans are in for another long dark decade like it had Morris, Schiano, Smith, Koetter.....

The Bucs 2022 season will be a complete mess if Arians loses his OC and/or DC and other position coaches he had planned to promote.

[OneBuc]

That would make more sense, still he hasn't left Tampa...there's no "taking him back" required.

Completely absurd that they wouldn't let a new HC they hired not be allowed to hire his own staff of assistants. That's not normal.

That's what the Bucs did for Raheem.

[Doctor]

Lefty hasn't left.

"More control"...A first time HC is asking for personnel control beyond a typical coach?

That doesn't sound right.

Apparently Leftwich's contract stated that Ballke had the final decision on which assistant coaches can be hired. That's not normal in NFL circles. The GM usually will have final say over player personnel (with heavy input from the coaching staff). But the head coach usually decides on his staff of assistants. If Jax wants the GM to have final say on assistant coaches, they are playing a dangerous game of chicken. Matter of fact, they are tying their hands by keeping Ballke on board.

No surpise candidates... baalked at that.

[Doctor]

If Flores or Fangio can't land HC jobs, Lefty could have himself a pretty good DC.

[Dread]

Completely absurd that they wouldn't let a new HC they hired not be allowed to hire his own staff of assistants. That's not normal.

That's what the Bucs did for Raheem.

Shitty franchises are that way because they make shitty decisions.

Not saying Raheem was a bad hire, just validating my point that it's dumb to trust a candidate to be the HC of the team but not let him pick his own staff.

It's poor leadership that you see in poorly run businesses

[BLT]

Good for Leftwich.

Baalke sounds like a douche.