Yes, on our little message board, sure. But in the overall football community, it was Winston going #1 all year long and even up to the draft.
Five worst Jason Licht draft picks
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I'm aware of no one outside this board who offered the opinion that the Bucs should take anyone else or any other position than Winston at QB and that includes a lot of people who didn't like him from around here.
I thought Winston was a Lovie pick all the way anyway. Maybe Licht agreed with it but I think Lovie was calling the shots at that point.
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You have me there. I had forgotten about Burrow for a second. He isn't very far into his career but his accomplishments can't be discounted.King Bootz wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:41 amWhat about Burrow? I would say even early on he's top 15 at least.Terry Tate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:51 am
Maybe. But, for all of the issues Winston has had, he was a starter last year and Mariota wasn't. Winston may be a starter somewhere this year too. We picked the better of the two shit sandwiches/.
At the end of the day, it just shows what a crap shoot drafting a QB is. Look at the best QB's in the league right now, Out of the top 15 the only #1 overall picks are Murray and Stafford. We had the #1 overall in a trap year and it set us back half a decade.
I likely forget him because the Bengals couldn't finish the job against those damned Rams.
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Lovie did have final roster say, but even I (a massive JL supporter) am not going to pretend he wouldn't have drafted Winston with that pick. I'd be SHOCKED if there was a single GM that year that wouldn't have taken Winston #1. I don't care how many pages a few accounts on a message board made a thread.
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While I wasn't on BZ or where ever you all were back when Winston was drafted, I thought both Winston and Mariota would be turds. I was really, really crestfallen when they picked Winston. I wanted them to trade out so much.
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There are probably less than a handful of HC/GMs who have enough rope to pass on the league consensus top QB of a draft class on a QBless team and Lovie/Licht are not among them.
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Yeah, it was never going to happen. It was Winston vs Mariota the entire time. Turned out, both would have been a mistake. So it goes.
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Tbh, it's curious who we even would've traded down for that would've worked. Some of the favorite players of the trade down group were Leonard Williams and Vic Beasly, both of whom have had weak careers.
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I wouldn't say Williams had a weak career. He's been a damn good player. Not an Aaron Donald Megastar, but an A- defensive lineman.
I think the biggest "what if" is the Chip Kelly/Mariota offer. As I recall, it was multiple 1sts, Sam Bradford, Fletcher Cox, and some additional picks. I'm sure that wasn't the only offer we got.
But again, I don't fault Licht for not taking it. We didn't have a QB. Winston (and Mariota) had franchise quarterback attributes. If we deal that pick away and that guy makes good, we're talking about it with the biggest bonehead moves in franchise history. And that's IF the Glazers had even let them make a deal.
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Yup. I also love how the same fans that believes there's only one way to rebuild (blow it all up and tank for a top QB) are the same fans saying they totally would've passed on Winston.
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