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nybf wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:32 pm
King Bootz wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:42 pm I'm thoroughly enjoying playing with my food.
So what you're saying is you're. Gonna swallow Dread.
You clearly beat me to it.
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King Bootz wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:34 pm
nybf wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:32 pm

So what you're saying is you're. Gonna swallow Dread.
You clearly beat me to it.
You're the one talking about him being your food.
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This is sad.

Great signing, now we don’t have to be obvious about who we want in the draft and if a receiver falls to us, we can use it luxury wise.
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nybf wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:57 pm
King Bootz wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:34 pm

You clearly beat me to it.
You're the one talking about him being your food.
And you were so eager to take it :mrgreen:
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BJJ34 wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:59 pm This is sad.

Great signing, now we don’t have to be obvious about who we want in the draft and if a receiver falls to us, we can use it luxury wise.
We never are. It's literally the part I like most of Licht GM style. You fill your needs in FA, you take BPA in the draft.
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He's impressed me when I've watched the Falcons. Very hard to cover on intermediate routes. Sharp cuts, good hands. He's not going to run by safeties but that's not why he's here. He should see the lionshare of those absent AB touches, and he'll help Godwin ease back in.

Getting him for 3-30 in this market is value. It also puts us in a great position if we like a receiver in the draft but think he needs some seasoning.
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Miller4Prez64 wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:32 pm Should have been 3 years, 28 million just to piss off the Falcons.
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whistlepig777 wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:48 pm
King Bootz wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:47 pm
This is hilarious. He'll fit right in.
The Tweet directly under it cracked me up...

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The more I think about this the more I don’t like it. Couldn’t we have found a ring chaser for this role who’d have been cheap??

Gage is a good player but this means Godwin isn’t staying beyond this year.
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real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:34 pm The more I think about this the more I don’t like it. Couldn’t we have found a ring chaser for this role who’d have been cheap??

Gage is a good player but this means Godwin isn’t staying beyond this year.
What's not to like? He's good, young, and 10 million per year is not expensive...

A ring chaser for cheap would have likely been someone worse who was once good.
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For the doubters:







This was a really nice signing.
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Right? I don't see why any criticism is warranted. We got a really good deal on a WR who was one of the best in the NFL for the final 8 games, runs god routes, has good hands, and runs the full route tree. Plus he's young and is getting better.
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real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:34 pm The more I think about this the more I don’t like it. Couldn’t we have found a ring chaser for this role who’d have been cheap??

Gage is a good player but this means Godwin isn’t staying beyond this year.
Why exactly can’t Godwin stay beyond this year?
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Primeminister wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:45 pm
real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:34 pm The more I think about this the more I don’t like it. Couldn’t we have found a ring chaser for this role who’d have been cheap??

Gage is a good player but this means Godwin isn’t staying beyond this year.
Why exactly can’t Godwin stay beyond this year?
I think the fact that he's been tagged twice is an indication that someone doesn't want to commit long-term. Whether it's the Bucs or CG is a guess at this point.
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real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:34 pm The more I think about this the more I don’t like it. Couldn’t we have found a ring chaser for this role who’d have been cheap??

Gage is a good player but this means Godwin isn’t staying beyond this year.
We had a ring chaser for cheap last year and he had mental breakdown late in the year which helped torpedo our chances of repeating.

Godwin injury
AB meltdown
Wirfs injury

Any one of those not happening might have provided that winning edge vs the Rams in the playoffs
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King Bootz wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:50 pm
Primeminister wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:45 pm

Why exactly can’t Godwin stay beyond this year?
I think the fact that he's been tagged twice is an indication that someone doesn't want to commit long-term. Whether it's the Bucs or CG is a guess at this point.
It's true, but the Gage contract doesn't impact him...unless Gage is just lights out this year.
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King Bootz wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:50 pm
Primeminister wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:45 pm

Why exactly can’t Godwin stay beyond this year?
I think the fact that he's been tagged twice is an indication that someone doesn't want to commit long-term. Whether it's the Bucs or CG is a guess at this point.
I get the contractual reasoning although I disagree. I’m referring to the belief that signing Gage means Godwin is gone. I disagree.
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Primeminister wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:45 pm
real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:34 pm The more I think about this the more I don’t like it. Couldn’t we have found a ring chaser for this role who’d have been cheap??

Gage is a good player but this means Godwin isn’t staying beyond this year.
Why exactly can’t Godwin stay beyond this year?
We’re talking like 50 million for 3 WRs.
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Dread wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:53 pm
real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:34 pm The more I think about this the more I don’t like it. Couldn’t we have found a ring chaser for this role who’d have been cheap??

Gage is a good player but this means Godwin isn’t staying beyond this year.
We had a ring chaser for cheap last year and he had mental breakdown late in the year which helped torpedo our chances of repeating.

Godwin injury
AB meltdown
Wirfs injury

Any one of those not happening might have provided that winning edge vs the Rams in the playoffs
Just gotta find a ring chaser who isn’t a crazy person lol

And if not a ring chaser, how about the first rounder? And then use the money to sign Lenny?

We’ll see, and I do hope I’m wrong.
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real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:35 pm
Primeminister wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:45 pm

Why exactly can’t Godwin stay beyond this year?
We’re talking like 50 million for 3 WRs.
The cap can be worked in the short term.
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Primeminister wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:45 pm
real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:35 pm
We’re talking like 50 million for 3 WRs.
The cap can be worked in the short term.
Plus the cap jumped up 26 million this year and is expected to jump up again next year. Some think it could exceed $225 million next year.

We are going to start seeing ridiculous contracts.
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A cap inflating at this rate + contract chicanery will permit almost perpetual can kicking. And if it gets untenable after a years, you just eat it for a single season and reset.
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uscbucsfan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:54 pm
King Bootz wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:50 pm

I think the fact that he's been tagged twice is an indication that someone doesn't want to commit long-term. Whether it's the Bucs or CG is a guess at this point.
It's true, but the Gage contract doesn't impact him...unless Gage is just lights out this year.
Ask yourself this. If we had signed Godwin to a long term deal, you think Gage is signed long term as well? I'm inclined to say no.
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King Bootz wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:51 pm
uscbucsfan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:54 pm

It's true, but the Gage contract doesn't impact him...unless Gage is just lights out this year.
Ask yourself this. If we had signed Godwin to a long term deal, you think Gage is signed long term as well? I'm inclined to say no.
Yes.

I think we wanted an AB replacement, plus Godwin may not be ready at the beginning of the season.
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uscbucsfan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:04 pm We are going to start seeing ridiculous contracts.

Yes, we are going to START seeing that next year, or possibly the year after that. That's when it will start.
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Can’t tell if Kress smartassery.
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real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:35 pm
Primeminister wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:45 pm

Why exactly can’t Godwin stay beyond this year?
We’re talking like 50 million for 3 WRs.
Godwin resigned.
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real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:35 pm
Primeminister wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:45 pm

Why exactly can’t Godwin stay beyond this year?
We’re talking like 50 million for 3 WRs.
35 this season. Happier?
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kaimaru wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:14 pm
real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:35 pm
We’re talking like 50 million for 3 WRs.
35 this season. Happier?
I thought he’d get 22.5 or something, so happy with the Godwin deal.

Thought Gage meant the end of Godwin, but guess I was wrong. Our WR depth is insane. I thought Grayson was going to be a big piece going forward but he’s like our 4th or 5th guy lol
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real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:25 pm
kaimaru wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:14 pm

35 this season. Happier?
I thought he’d get 22.5 or something, so happy with the Godwin deal.

Thought Gage meant the end of Godwin, but guess I was wrong. Our WR depth is insane. I thought Grayson was going to be a big piece going forward but he’s like our 4th or 5th guy lol
Grayson, Perriman, Miller and TJ will be battling it out for three and possibly two spots.
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6th rounder, meh.

Ohh wait, he's somebody now - lets give him 30 mil.

No problem with the guy, just pointing out - yes they are there, even that far down in the draft.


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real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:34 pm The more I think about this the more I don’t like it. Couldn’t we have found a ring chaser for this role who’d have been cheap??

Gage is a good player but this means Godwin isn’t staying beyond this year.
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So Brady WANTED Gage, as part of his ‘How to get the Bucs back to the Big Dance’ list.

Hmmmm…
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TonyLip wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:23 am So Brady WANTED Gage, as part of his ‘How to get the Bucs back to the Big Dance’ list.

Hmmmm…
As great as Evans, Godwin, and Gronky all are, none are shifty athletes who get in and out of their breaks quickly.

Brady's kryptonite throughout his career is defenses who rush 4 and play press man under w/ 2 high split safeties to take away anything deep. It takes a great front 4 and skilled CBs to be effective but that's exactly how the Saints give us trouble.

The best way to beat that defense is a QB who can run (which Brady can't) or shifty receivers running crossers and other man beaters, which AB, and now Gage excel at. Running the ball well so they can't play 2 high safeties helps also.

Point is, the Bucs offense needed that shifty WR Brady has always used to exploit defenses underneath like he's done with Welker, Edelman, AB.

There is a reason Brady proactively reached out to Gage
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The playoffs were a huge eye opener. I think Brady got sacked more in a 2 game span than he ever had as a Buc. And while most of that could be attributed to Wirfs being out, he didn't have that guy that could get open quickly in a phone booth. Gage can do that and he has good hands.
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