If they aren't ready to start you don't draft them in the 1st/2nd. That's a big issue most have/had with the Braswell pick. Toolsy guys that aren't ready to play can hurt a contending team. But, he could still pay off if they can unlock him. I'm not holding my breath.mdb1958 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:13 amGrahamburn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:50 am
I think Mike Green and Jahdae Barron are insta-starters. Don’t think you’ll be able to get both though in the real draft unless JB is really slow this week.
Maybe neither will be had and both are doubtful too. I think both would used as chess pieces by Bowles not instant starters as they will have to learn much.
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Grahamburn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:34 amIf they aren't ready to start you don't draft them in the 1st/2nd. That's a big issue most have/had with the Braswell pick. Toolsy guys that aren't ready to play can hurt a contending team. But, he could still pay off if they can unlock him. I'm not holding my breath.
That's true if you got shaky starters in the first place, if you got signed strong rosters they have to force the staff to give them playing time. Yes with us prolly instant starters with a strong learning curves.
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I'm not sold on Green, but Barron strikes me as an instant impact player. If he runs well I'd take him at #19 and be thrilled with it. Super high football IQ. Great zone player. Brian Branch comparisons galore. He'd be a good fit for us and could allow us to move Tykee to safety or Bowles can get cute and use them interchangeably.mdb1958 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:47 amGrahamburn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:34 am
If they aren't ready to start you don't draft them in the 1st/2nd. That's a big issue most have/had with the Braswell pick. Toolsy guys that aren't ready to play can hurt a contending team. But, he could still pay off if they can unlock him. I'm not holding my breath.
That's true if you got shaky starters in the first place, if you got signed strong rosters they have to force the staff to give them playing time. Yes with us prolly instant starters with a strong learning curves.
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Grahamburn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:50 amI'm not sold on Green, but Barron strikes me as an instant impact player. If he runs well I'd take him at #19 and be thrilled with it. Super high football IQ. Great zone player. Brian Branch comparisons galore. He'd be a good fit for us and could allow us to move Tykee to safety or Bowles can get cute and use them interchangeably.
Not that I agree at all on running auto sims, mainly because the Bucs draft looks piss poor to me almost all the time but I just did one and Barron went 39th to the Bears.
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Tried something a little different. Adding Luther Burden at 19 to add another weapon to our offense. He's a shifty YAC guy that would fit in great with our RB/short game focused offense.
1. Luther Burden III - WR
2. Mykel Williams - Edge
3. Dairen Porter - CB
4. Kevin Winston Jr. - S
5. Jeffrey Bassa - LB
6. Tonka Hemingway - DT
1. Luther Burden III - WR
2. Mykel Williams - Edge
3. Dairen Porter - CB
4. Kevin Winston Jr. - S
5. Jeffrey Bassa - LB
6. Tonka Hemingway - DT
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Even with 32 2/8" arms?Grahamburn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:50 amI think Mike Green and Jahdae Barron are insta-starters. Don’t think you’ll be able to get both though in the real draft unless JB is really slow this week.
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Who we talkin bout? Are there official measurements?kaimaru wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:01 amEven with 32 2/8" arms?Grahamburn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:50 am
I think Mike Green and Jahdae Barron are insta-starters. Don’t think you’ll be able to get both though in the real draft unless JB is really slow this week.
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kaimaru wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:01 amEven with 32 2/8" arms?Grahamburn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:50 am
I think Mike Green and Jahdae Barron are insta-starters. Don’t think you’ll be able to get both though in the real draft unless JB is really slow this week.
Is that how we read a tape measure now?
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Per NFL.com, Mike Green's arms are 32"Grahamburn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 1:33 pmWho we talkin bout? Are there official measurements?
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He’ll just have to go up against Luke Goedeke in practice.kaimaru wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 1:19 amPer NFL.com, Mike Green's arms are 32"Grahamburn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 1:33 pm
Who we talkin bout? Are there official measurements?
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PICK: 19 RND: 1 (TB)
Tetairoa McMillan
WR Arizona
PICK: 53 RND: 2 (TB)
Trey Amos
CB Ole Miss
PICK: 84 RND: 3 (TB)
Barrett Carter
LB Clemson
PICK: 120 RND: 4 (TB)
Kevin Winston Jr.
S Penn State
PICK: 158 RND: 5 (TB)
Jordan Phillips
DT Maryland
PICK: 237 RND: 7 (TB)
Cody Lindenberg
LB Minnesota
Tetairoa McMillan
WR Arizona
PICK: 53 RND: 2 (TB)
Trey Amos
CB Ole Miss
PICK: 84 RND: 3 (TB)
Barrett Carter
LB Clemson
PICK: 120 RND: 4 (TB)
Kevin Winston Jr.
S Penn State
PICK: 158 RND: 5 (TB)
Jordan Phillips
DT Maryland
PICK: 237 RND: 7 (TB)
Cody Lindenberg
LB Minnesota
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There's your cornerbacks.
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Grand slam.Sdbucs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:38 pm PICK: 19 RND: 1 (TB)
Tetairoa McMillan
WR Arizona
PICK: 53 RND: 2 (TB)
Trey Amos
CB Ole Miss
PICK: 84 RND: 3 (TB)
Barrett Carter
LB Clemson
PICK: 120 RND: 4 (TB)
Kevin Winston Jr.
S Penn State
PICK: 158 RND: 5 (TB)
Jordan Phillips
DT Maryland
PICK: 237 RND: 7 (TB)
Cody Lindenberg
LB Minnesota
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No offense but I'd rather have the 2 guys you lost in the picks traded portion.13F11B wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:29 pm Here is a mock I did.
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/sim/13f-2002
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Yeah, I looked at the Emeka Egbuka, but thought CB was a bigger need. What don't you like about Jahdae Barron?Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 2:57 pmNo offense but I'd rather have the 2 guys you lost in the picks traded portion.13F11B wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:29 pm Here is a mock I did.
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/sim/13f-2002
With Jordan Phillips I was willing to take a one pick drop and risk that he was still there because I also liked Jordan Burch. What did you not like about Jordan Burch? I think Burch will end up being a better piece in the pass rush.
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Just because I like 1 doesn't mean I dislike the other. This has everything to do with Egbuka, who has #1 WR potential.13F11B wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 3:05 pmYeah, I looked at the Emeka Egbuka, but thought CB was a bigger need. What don't you like about Jahdae Barron?
With Jordan Phillips I was willing to take a one pick drop and risk that he was still there because I also liked Jordan Burch. What did you not like about Jordan Burch? I think Burch will end up being a better piece in the pass rush.
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Yeah, I agree with that.Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 3:22 pmJust because I like 1 doesn't mean I dislike the other. This has everything to do with Egbuka, who has #1 WR potential.13F11B wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 3:05 pm
Yeah, I looked at the Emeka Egbuka, but thought CB was a bigger need. What don't you like about Jahdae Barron?
With Jordan Phillips I was willing to take a one pick drop and risk that he was still there because I also liked Jordan Burch. What did you not like about Jordan Burch? I think Burch will end up being a better piece in the pass rush.
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Tried something different, traded down in the 3rd and got pick 161 and 2 7th rounders in 2026
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S South Carolina
53. Darien Porter
CB Iowa State
97. Jordan Burch
EDGE Oregon
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DT Toledo
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CB California
161 Zah Frazier
CB UTSA
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S South Carolina
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CB Iowa State
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EDGE Oregon
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Traded back, picked Green and got another 2nd. Here is my Dilemma, I got three players I like TJ Sanders, Darien Porter, and Alfred Collins.
Who should I pick?
Who should I pick?
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Grahamburn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:34 amIf they aren't ready to start you don't draft them in the 1st/2nd. That's a big issue most have/had with the Braswell pick. Toolsy guys that aren't ready to play can hurt a contending team. But, he could still pay off if they can unlock him. I'm not holding my breath.
Just re-read this. Braswell is going to have to unlock himself!
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Grahamburn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:34 amIf they aren't ready to start you don't draft them in the 1st/2nd. That's a big issue most have/had with the Braswell pick. Toolsy guys that aren't ready to play can hurt a contending team. But, he could still pay off if they can unlock him. I'm not holding my breath.
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If these picks turned out great could you see a mid-season trade for Dean and Braswell to a team in need?
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CB Kentucky
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DT Toledo
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CB Virginia Tech
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CB Kentucky
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Full 32 team mock. We miss out on tons of prospects but still manage to land Warren.
Whoops. Forgot the Jets got Fields...
Whoops. Forgot the Jets got Fields...
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Re: Draft Sim
Why do we need a TE?
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He's one of those "gadget" offensive prospects that adds a unique element to an offense and just BPA in general. I wouldn't complain with him at 19 with all those defensive prospects off the board. Maybe a DL or WR instead though. Matthew Golden or Walter Nolen would be my other 2 there.
