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[Grahamburn]

And yet, a 7th round pick.

We need be realistic about his capabilities.

It’s a pretty deep roster. We aren’t going to have many camp battles. But, those last couple WR spots will be one of them.

If he makes the team he’ll have earned it.

[Bootz]

And yet, a 7th round pick.

We need be realistic about his capabilities.

I'm noticing a trend. It seems every draft we always find "steals" yet less than half of them seem to become such.

[__Chef__]

And yet, a 7th round pick.

We need be realistic about his capabilities.

1300 yards after the catch over 2 seasons. That's elite level production while remaining relatively injury free. Capability isn't in question.
The only real question is his weight/frame, which IMO is answered by his lack of injuries while getting plenty of touches.

Keep him on the outside and the kid can put in some work for us.

Height 5’ 10’’
Weight 169 lbs
Arm 29 3/4’’
Hand 9 3/8’’
10-Yard Split 1.55

vs

Height 5’ 10’’
Weight 154 lbs
Arm 29 3/8’’
Hand 9’’
10-Yard Split 1.53

That first guy played over 10 years in the league, I think the 2nd guy might have a shot.

[Grahamburn]

Isn’t Tez pretty much strictly a slot player? He’s not very good against press or physical corners. He needs space and free releases.

I don’t think putting him outside is an option.

[__Chef__]

Isn’t Tez pretty much strictly a slot player? He’s not very good against press or physical corners. He needs space and free releases.

I don’t think putting him outside is an option.

I'm not saying replace Mike, Chris, McMillan, or E2 on the outside, I'm saying let him work the outside. Could be motion, could be route design, could be reverse handoffs. As long as he isn't taking big hits over the middle of the field, he has a shot to be a real asset for us.

[Bootz]

Isn’t Tez pretty much strictly a slot player? He’s not very good against press or physical corners. He needs space and free releases.

I don’t think putting him outside is an option.

I'm not saying replace Mike, Chris, McMillan, or E2 on the outside, I'm saying let him work the outside. Could be motion, could be route design, could be reverse handoffs. As long as he isn't taking big hits over the middle of the field, he has a shot to be a real asset for us.

At best you're talking about a gadget type who could have a 2-3 play package. What I think most are saying, or at least me, that's not enough to allocate a 53 man roster spot to, especially he's not the main return guy.

[__Chef__]

I'm not saying replace Mike, Chris, McMillan, or E2 on the outside, I'm saying let him work the outside. Could be motion, could be route design, could be reverse handoffs. As long as he isn't taking big hits over the middle of the field, he has a shot to be a real asset for us.

At best you're talking about a gadget type who could have a 2-3 play package. What I think most are saying, or at least me, that's not enough to allocate a 53 man roster spot to, especially he's not the main return guy.

I see the "gadget type" as his floor, not anywhere near his full capabilities. IMO production far outweighs measurables. What I've seen this kid do on the field is special. Maybe not HoF special, but certainly worth a roster spot to see where he takes it.

Come preseason, we'll get to see what this kid can do against other teams.

[Bootz]

At best you're talking about a gadget type who could have a 2-3 play package. What I think most are saying, or at least me, that's not enough to allocate a 53 man roster spot to, especially he's not the main return guy.

I see the "gadget type" as his floor, not anywhere near his full capabilities. IMO production far outweighs measurables. What I've seen this kid do on the field is special. Maybe not HoF special, but certainly worth a roster spot to see where he takes it.

Come preseason, we'll get to see what this kid can do against other teams.

Again, why did he last until the 7th round?

[__Chef__]

I see the "gadget type" as his floor, not anywhere near his full capabilities. IMO production far outweighs measurables. What I've seen this kid do on the field is special. Maybe not HoF special, but certainly worth a roster spot to see where he takes it.

Come preseason, we'll get to see what this kid can do against other teams.

Again, why did he last until the 7th round?

Weight 154 lbs

Teams are concerned he isn't built for it. If the kid didn't have the production and lack of injury history, I'd be right there with you.

[Bootz]

Again, why did he last until the 7th round?

Weight 154 lbs

Teams are concerned he isn't built for it. If the kid didn't have the production and lack of injury history, I'd be right there with you.

That goes directly against “production outweighs measurables”……

[__Chef__]

Teams are concerned he isn't built for it. If the kid didn't have the production and lack of injury history, I'd be right there with you.

That goes directly against “production outweighs measurables”……

How so? I said the kid produced at a high level. His measurables clearly aren't 1st round talent. We took a shot with a late round pick to see if we can replicate the success we found with Bucky who also didn't wow with his measurables, but quickly separated himself on the field over White who has significantly better measurables.

[Snake]

And yet, a 7th round pick.

We need be realistic about his capabilities.

1300 yards after the catch over 2 seasons. That's elite level production while remaining relatively injury free. Capability isn't in question.
The only real question is his weight/frame, which IMO is answered by his lack of injuries while getting plenty of touches.

Keep him on the outside and the kid can put in some work for us.

Height 5’ 10’’
Weight 169 lbs
Arm 29 3/4’’
Hand 9 3/8’’
10-Yard Split 1.55

vs

Height 5’ 10’’
Weight 154 lbs
Arm 29 3/8’’
Hand 9’’
10-Yard Split 1.53

That first guy played over 10 years in the league, I think the 2nd guy might have a shot.

(Mysteriously) Invoking DeSean Jackson’s name in this situation is malpractice. He’s the exception to every rule. They don’t even play the same way!

[Ken]

How many versions of Jeff Demps have we tried? I'm happy to take a flier on a hyper productive player who played a big role for a top-5 program last season.

[__Chef__]

1300 yards after the catch over 2 seasons. That's elite level production while remaining relatively injury free. Capability isn't in question.
The only real question is his weight/frame, which IMO is answered by his lack of injuries while getting plenty of touches.

Keep him on the outside and the kid can put in some work for us.

Height 5’ 10’’
Weight 169 lbs
Arm 29 3/4’’
Hand 9 3/8’’
10-Yard Split 1.55

vs

Height 5’ 10’’
Weight 154 lbs
Arm 29 3/8’’
Hand 9’’
10-Yard Split 1.53

That first guy played over 10 years in the league, I think the 2nd guy might have a shot.

(Mysteriously) Invoking DeSean Jackson’s name in this situation is malpractice. He’s the exception to every rule. They don’t even play the same way!

I didn't mention his name for obvious reasons as I'm not trying to say "we got DeSean Jackson in the 7th!" But Tez has a shot to make it.
Especially with the league doing more and more to protect players from injury.

[Doctor]

Indeed. Chef's tactics do appear done in good faith. Argument allowed.

It's more, if you're swinging in the 7th, this the type of correlation that makes you feel good.

[Bootz]

1300 yards after the catch over 2 seasons. That's elite level production while remaining relatively injury free. Capability isn't in question.
The only real question is his weight/frame, which IMO is answered by his lack of injuries while getting plenty of touches.

Keep him on the outside and the kid can put in some work for us.

Height 5’ 10’’
Weight 169 lbs
Arm 29 3/4’’
Hand 9 3/8’’
10-Yard Split 1.55

vs

Height 5’ 10’’
Weight 154 lbs
Arm 29 3/8’’
Hand 9’’
10-Yard Split 1.53

That first guy played over 10 years in the league, I think the 2nd guy might have a shot.

(Mysteriously) Invoking DeSean Jackson’s name in this situation is malpractice. He’s the exception to every rule. They don’t even play the same way!

Good God. I was wondering who that other player was. It's an annual thing though right after the draft. Every pick we made was a steal. Every pick is compared to truly great and all time players. The draft is always better than the year before.

[__Chef__]

Indeed. Chef's tactics do appear done in good faith. Argument allowed.

It's more, if you're swinging in the 7th, this the type of correlation that makes you feel good.

This and he already has a rapport with Bucky, who we're obviously hoping to replicate the outperforming of draft measurables and ability to make guys miss.

[__Chef__]

(Mysteriously) Invoking DeSean Jackson’s name in this situation is malpractice. He’s the exception to every rule. They don’t even play the same way!

Good God. I was wondering who that other player was. It's an annual thing though right after the draft. Every pick we made was a steal. Every pick is compared to truly great and all time players. The draft is always better than the year before.

You've been through it, so I can't speak to what everyone was saying all those other years, but I was pissed after we picked up Emuka. You didn't see me doing backflips. I called Jason Licht out on the spot. Time will tell on all of this, but yeah, I'm not that guy.

This pick is different.

I'm not banging the table for Tez in the 3rd, but finding someone this productive in the 7th, yeah, that's a steal.
Time will tell if he's more Sammy Stroughter or Wes Welker.

[GoldenBudda]

Draft picks are never going to all be good. We have to have reasonable expectations, but I think this draft was exceptional. I've never seen Licht come away with this many exceptional prospects.

Even hitting half of these picks is exceptional. Licht has done very well the last three years building the roster with starters and key backups.

2022
Goedeke
White
Otton
McCollum

2023
Diyabi
Dennis
Durham

2024
Tykee
McMillan
Bucky
Culp

Initially, this draft looks better to me on paper than all of those.

[GoldenBudda]

[Snake]

Draft picks are never going to all be good. We have to have reasonable expectations, but I think this draft was exceptional. I've never seen Licht come away with this many exceptional prospects.

Even hitting half of these picks is exceptional. Licht has done very well the last three years building the roster with starters and key backups.

2022
Goedeke
White
Otton
McCollum

2023
Diyabi
Dennis
Durham

2024
Tykee
McMillan
Bucky
Culp

Initially, this draft looks better to me on paper than all of those.

What exactly is the standard if we’re including Dennis as a success?

[Bootz]

Draft picks are never going to all be good. We have to have reasonable expectations, but I think this draft was exceptional. I've never seen Licht come away with this many exceptional prospects.

Even hitting half of these picks is exceptional. Licht has done very well the last three years building the roster with starters and key backups.

2022
Goedeke
White
Otton
McCollum

2023
Diyabi
Dennis
Durham

2024
Tykee
McMillan
Bucky
Culp

Initially, this draft looks better to me on paper than all of those.

What exactly is the standard if we’re including Dennis as a success?

Honestly, what's the standard outside of Bucky Irving and maybe Luke Goedeke? I see a lot of players here that we made starters and because they made a few plays that means they are a "success". I mean Payne Durham and Devin Culp have a combined 21 career catches and we're calling them both successes? Dafuq?

[GoldenBudda]

Draft picks are never going to all be good. We have to have reasonable expectations, but I think this draft was exceptional. I've never seen Licht come away with this many exceptional prospects.

Even hitting half of these picks is exceptional. Licht has done very well the last three years building the roster with starters and key backups.

2022
Goedeke
White
Otton
McCollum

2023
Diyabi
Dennis
Durham

2024
Tykee
McMillan
Bucky
Culp

Initially, this draft looks better to me on paper than all of those.

What exactly is the standard if we’re including Dennis as a success?

As quoted, it's a list of starters and key backups. Denis is going to be a starter this year. I don't necessarily love Denis, because he's made of glass apparently, but starting your 5th round ILB 2 years after drafting him is acceptable level of drafting in my eyes.

I don't know, do some fans expect every draft pick to be a world beater right out of the gate regardless of what round they're drafted? Is a 5th round pick starting at ILB in year two bad? Seems like unreasonable expectations to me. Is he a bad pick because he isn't all-pro already?

[GoldenBudda]

What exactly is the standard if we’re including Dennis as a success?

Honestly, what's the standard outside of Bucky Irving and maybe Luke Goedeke? I see a lot of players here that we made starters and because they made a few plays that means they are a "success". I mean Payne Durham and Devin Culp have a combined 21 career catches and we're calling them both successes? Dafuq?

When Cade Otton went down Durham and Culp stepped up big time. We didn't miss Otton. Culp averaged 17.6 YPC and Durham averaged over 10 YPC and 2 TD. That is called quality depth.

https://www.buccaneers.com/news/payne-d ... -tight-end

[Sdbucs]

We always have a late round WR that we hype ourselves up on so I’ll hold my breath

[__Chef__]

Top 5 20y Shuttle WRs Production in 2024:

Player Name	20y	Rec	Yds	TDs	Drafted....	Projected
Isaac TeSlaa	4.05	28	545	3	3rd round	Rounds 4-7
Daniel Jackson	4.07	75	863	4	Undrafted	Late rounds
Jaylin Lane	4.12	38	466	2	4th round	Rounds 4-7
Tez Johnson	4.15	83	898	10	7th round	Rounds 3-4
Jaylin Noel	4.17	80	1194	8	3rd round	Rounds 2-3

https://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker/top ... e/wr/2025/

[__Chef__]

Top 15 Most Productive WRs in the draft:

Rank	Player Name	College Name	Rec-Yds-TD	Draft Status (2025 NFL Draft)
1	Tetairoa McMill	Arizona....	84-1319-8	Round 1, Pick 8, Carolina Panthers
2	Travis Hunter	Colorado	96-1258-15	Round 1, Pick 2, Jacksonville Jaguars
3	Kyle Williams	Washington St	70-1198-14	Round 3, Pick 69, New England Patriots
4	Jaylin Noel	Iowa State	80-1194-8	Round 3, Pick 79, Houston Texans
5	Jayden Higgins	Iowa State	87-1183-9	Round 2, Pick 34, Houston Texans
6	Xavier Restrepo	Miami (FL)	69-1127-11	Round 4, Pick 121, Miami Dolphins
7	Tai Felton	Maryland	96-1124-9	Round 3, Pick 102, Minnesota Vikings
8	Ricky White III	UNLV.......	79-1041-11	Round 7, Pick 238, Seattle Seahawks
9	Jack Bech	TCU........	62-1034-9	Round 2, Pick 58, Las Vegas Raiders
10	Tre Harris	Ole Miss	60-1030-7	Round 2, Pick 55, Los Angeles Chargers
11	Emeka Egbuka	Ohio State	81-1011-10	Round 1, Pick 19, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
12	Matthew Golden	Texas...	58-987-9	Round 1, Pick 23, Green Bay Packers
13	Pat Bryant	Illinois	54-984-10	Round 3, Pick 74, Denver Broncos
14	Jordan Watkins	Ole Miss	49-906-9	Round 4, Pick 138, San Francisco 49ers
15	Tez Johnson	Oregon...	83-898-10	Round 7, Pick 235, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

[Bootz]

Honestly, what's the standard outside of Bucky Irving and maybe Luke Goedeke? I see a lot of players here that we made starters and because they made a few plays that means they are a "success". I mean Payne Durham and Devin Culp have a combined 21 career catches and we're calling them both successes? Dafuq?

When Cade Otton went down Durham and Culp stepped up big time. We didn't miss Otton. Culp averaged 17.6 YPC and Durham averaged over 10 YPC and 2 TD. That is called quality depth.

https://www.buccaneers.com/news/payne-d ... -tight-end

Bar just gets set lower and lower

[Snake]

Culp is a HOFer!

[Bootz]

5 catches your rookie year clearly makes you quality depth.

[CannonFire]

Interesting:

Jalen McMillan - Grade is 5.97, "Average backup or special-teamer" - This guy is/was a 3rd round pick.

Tez Johnson - Grade is 6.00, "Traits or talent to be above-average backup" - This guy is/was a 7th round pick.

[mdb1958]

Houston Texans picked both Iowa St WR's.

[Grahamburn]

Houston Texans picked both Iowa St WR's.

They were rumored to have been one of the teams trying to trade up to #19 for Egbuka.

[mdb1958]

When Cade Otton went down Durham and Culp stepped up big time. We didn't miss Otton. Culp averaged 17.6 YPC and Durham averaged over 10 YPC and 2 TD. That is called quality depth.

https://www.buccaneers.com/news/payne-d ... -tight-end

Bar just gets set lower and lower

Get your group together and you can protest Landphere being in the building.

[mdb1958]

When Cade Otton went down Durham and Culp stepped up big time. We didn't miss Otton. Culp averaged 17.6 YPC and Durham averaged over 10 YPC and 2 TD. That is called quality depth.

https://www.buccaneers.com/news/payne-d ... -tight-end

Bar just gets set lower and lower

Get your group together and you can protest Landphere being in the building.