Try to win or rebuild?

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Should the Bucs try to win in 2022 or tear the team down and rebuild?

Poll ended at Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:43 am

Win now
13
54%
Tear down and rebuild
11
46%
 
Total votes: 24

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MJW
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Re: Try to win or rebuild?

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mdb1958 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:21 am
MJW wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:49 am

For the most part, I agree with this. But while you're okay with losing this year, you don't want to embarrass yourself either. It's fine to add solid veteran during a tank to keep that from happening. The most important thing is you sign them to short-term deals with no lingering cap effects.

Ideally, a tanking team will have it's young talented core developing, veterans on one or two year deals supporting them, and depth provided by vet minimum guys and late rounders/UDFAs who fit the schemes.
I dont see our depth as developing players, more like cheap pick ups that we hope we never have to use. That leads me to o-line players - if they are not climbing the hill of eventual starter, why are they even here.

I even wish we'd trade Smith this year. POTENTIAL OUT: 2022, 1 YR, $14,250,000; $25,100,000 DEAD CAP
I'd be incredibly curious to know what Smith's value was, just for laughs. But as long as Licht is here, Smith will be here.

Guys I'd love to shop, if we're really, truly serious about the rebuild:

- Chris Godwin. I've talked about this elsewhere. Nothing against CG, but in two years we haven't been able to work out a long-term deal with him, and I kind of doubt we ever will. We can save $19 mil dealing him right now, and we can probably get a 20-32 type pick plus change. With the savings, we can likely re-sign Carlton Davis.

- Cameron Brate. The TE market, which once looked robust, has been decimated by franchise tags. Cameron Brate isn't a pup anymore (this is his age 31 season), but I think we could get a 4th.

- Devin White. I said it. He was basically Kwon Alexander last year. We're going to be paying him $21 mil over the next two years, only $4 mil of which we'd be on the hook for if we traded him now. Some ambitious GM will look at his 2021 numbers and offer a first for him. I'd take it.
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They’re trying to establish something of a sexual assault tradition at the QB position. Nice!
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Primeminister wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:33 pm
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Doctor
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Watson is a creep and a predator. We're also Super Bowl favorites with him.
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Doctor wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:16 pm Watson is a creep and a predator. We're also Super Bowl favorites with him.
The Bucs weren’t super bowl favorites in 2021 with a better QB and what will probably be a better roster compared to next season.
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Primeminister wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:33 pm
I hope he chooses Carolina. For the life of me though, I have no idea on Earth what we have to offer that Houston would take.
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CannonFire wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:53 pm
Primeminister wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:33 pm
I hope he chooses Carolina. For the life of me though, I have no idea on Earth what we have to offer that Houston would take.
Good players, and given that we would need to clear out cap space to afford Watson, trading a few of our better dudes for him could be possible.

I'd hate it. If the Bucs' brass go that direction, not much I can do about it, but trading away a ton of future assets and likely a few choice current players for an expensive quarterback who might also be a serial sexual assaulter is a bad look.
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Winning cures all. I don't think anyone cares about Watson's off-field issues if he wins. Think I'm wrong? Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, and Ben Roethlisberger say otherwise.

I don't think we are even seriously in the conversation though.
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Unless he really leverages his no trade clause, I gotta agree we don't have the ammo.
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Win now.
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There’s a lot a holes to fill. They have work to do. It’s pretty clear with this team’s problems were last season. Can they actually get better?
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