The Official 2023 NFL Off-Season Thread

[Central_Buc]

Dam this board sometimes

[Bootz]

SPAMBOT!

[Doctor]

Hey @Central_Buc are you glad we are set now?

[Central_Buc]

Hey @Central_Buc are you glad we are set now?

I'm not sure now.. Either I am cursed or have just caused the Bucs to be.

[13F11B]

Hey @Central_Buc are you glad we are set now?

I'm not sure now.. Either I am cursed or have just caused the Bucs to be.

I think it is more of a mutual thing. We are all cursed and so are the Buccaneers.

[Buc2]

I'm not sure now.. Either I am cursed or have just caused the Bucs to be.

I think it is more of a mutual thing. We are all cursed and so are the Buccaneers.

Naw. Cursed teams don't win 2 SBs.

These are the cursed teams: Cardinals, Falcons, Bills, Panthers, Bengals, Browns, Lions, Texans, Jaguars, Chargers, Vikings, and Titans.

These teams are doubly cursed because they've never even been to the SB: Browns, Lions, Jaguars, and Texans.

[13F11B]

I think it is more of a mutual thing. We are all cursed and so are the Buccaneers.

Naw. Cursed teams don't win 2 SBs.

These are the cursed teams: Cardinals, Falcons, Bills, Panthers, Bengals, Browns, Lions, Texans, Jaguars, Chargers, Vikings, and Titans.

These teams are doubly cursed because they've never even been to the SB: Browns, Lions, Jaguars, and Texans.

I was trying to be humorous. Your points are valid.

[Phantom]

According to FOX Sports reporter Ben Arthur, the Titans might cut QB Malik Willis with Ryan Tannehill and Will Levis on the roster

[MJW]

According to FOX Sports reporter Ben Arthur, the Titans might cut QB Malik Willis with Ryan Tannehill and Will Levis on the roster

I'd be kinda surprised, just because he's young with some upside and he's dirt-cheap for three more years. You're going to cut him and just fill the stop with a (likely) less talented UDFA for similar money.

Unless, of course, he's just atrociously bad and/or decided to be a turd now that Levis took his QBOTF status.

[Deja Entendu]

This is gold.

[Snake]

One man’s opinion.

[Deja Entendu]

One man’s opinion.

8 tiers seems excessive.

[Snake]

I know it hasn’t been the best 12 months for Kyler Murray, but I feel like he’s being written off entirely. I find this very strange. Kliff Kingsbury is objectively terrible and he’s been his head coach his entire career. Kyler never respected him, but maybe he was just ahead of the curve…

[Selmon Rules]

This is gold.

Genius






Somewhere, someone is going to see this as proof, lol

[Grahamburn]

The Jags win.

[Bootz]

One man’s opinion.

2 things.

1. No way we're as bad as the Cards.

2. Kyler Murray has a dead cap hit of $81mil+ if he's cut or traded next offseason. The Cards are stuck with him for the foreseeable future.

[mdb1958]

After doing some research - it seems the only player we have signed is Kurt Warner's kid.

[MJW]

One man’s opinion.

2 things.

1. No way we're as bad as the Cards.

2. Kyler Murray has a dead cap hit of $81mil+ if he's cut or traded next offseason. The Cards are stuck with him for the foreseeable future.

We don't know if Gannon can coach yet.
We do know Bowles can't.

It's possible.

[Bootz]

2 things.

1. No way we're as bad as the Cards.

2. Kyler Murray has a dead cap hit of $81mil+ if he's cut or traded next offseason. The Cards are stuck with him for the foreseeable future.

We don't know if Gannon can coach yet.
We do know Bowles can't.

It's possible.

Stop excusing ignorance for innocence.

That's a bad bad roster. Kingsbury wasn't any good but that roster was bad. Murray won't be available until at least October or November.

[Snake]

This new article has wins over/under at….

Buccaneers 6.5
Colts 6.5
Cardinals 5.5
Texans 5.5

Four worst teams in the NFL.

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/3 ... team-under

[MJW]

We don't know if Gannon can coach yet.
We do know Bowles can't.

It's possible.

Stop excusing ignorance for innocence.

That's a bad bad roster. Kingsbury wasn't any good but that roster was bad. Murray won't be available until at least October or November.

This is a good roster?

This is a bad roster coached by a lousy coach and unlike the Cardinals, at no point in the season will we have a competent quarterback.

Yeah, we might win a game or two more that's true. The idea that we're going to be head and shoulders better than anyone with the Bowles/Mayfield combination....nah.

[Navybuc]

This new article has wins over/under at….

Buccaneers 6.5
Colts 6.5
Cardinals 5.5
Texans 5.5

Four worst teams in the NFL.

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/3 ... team-under

Damn…going under us at 6.5 is tempting. I don’t know how we’re going to even get to 4 wins. I guess a couple within the division is possible…but damn….winning more than 6.5 with Bowles as our HC and his favorite qb Baker? Getting to 7 wins is as likely as the Cardinals and Texans facing off in the SB.

[MJW]

This new article has wins over/under at….

Buccaneers 6.5
Colts 6.5
Cardinals 5.5
Texans 5.5

Four worst teams in the NFL.

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/3 ... team-under

Damn…going under us at 6.5 is tempting. I don’t know how we’re going to even get to 4 wins. I guess a couple within the division is possible…but damn….winning more than 6.5 with Bowles as our HC and his favorite qb Baker? Getting to 7 wins is as likely as the Cardinals and Texans facing off in the SB.

Yeah, I would have guessed 5.5 and probably taken that under too.

[kaimaru]

Stop excusing ignorance for innocence.

That's a bad bad roster. Kingsbury wasn't any good but that roster was bad. Murray won't be available until at least October or November.

This is a good roster?

This is a bad roster coached by a lousy coach and unlike the Cardinals, at no point in the season will we have a competent quarterback.

Yeah, we might win a game or two more that's true. The idea that we're going to be head and shoulders better than anyone with the Bowles/Mayfield combination....nah.

We have Jensen, Wirfs, Evans, Godwin, White, and Mayfield on offense. Vea, LVD, White, Barrett, AWJ, Davis, Dean, and Neal on defense. That's better talent than the Cards have on both sides of the ball. This is not a bad roster. We have players that haven't played to their talent like Mayfield and White. But let's not act like we don't have a lot more talent, and I believe that was @Bootz point.

[GreatTimes]

Why are the pundits thinking the Bucs will be so bad next season? Is it because of the QB's? Is it the Offensive line? Is it the HC? Is it the GM? Probably a combination of all of the above.

[kaimaru]

I think the horrible offensive performance with the GOAT and going to Mayfield or Trask along with reshuffling and rebuilding the OL is the biggest reason. No offense means the defense will have to carry us, and we know Bowles no risk it no biscuit blitzing is going to give up some easy scores. So questionable timing on the DC side at times, ongoing POOR communication in our secondary, plus a change of historically bad offense. Now if our OL performs well running the Seahawks offense, and Baker takes care of the ball this will be completely different team. If not, well....Look I believe that Trask is not necessarily trash but the fact they kept saying "Yeah let's keep Gabbert AND Griffin on the practice squad" does NOT give me hope.

[MJW]

This is a good roster?

This is a bad roster coached by a lousy coach and unlike the Cardinals, at no point in the season will we have a competent quarterback.

Yeah, we might win a game or two more that's true. The idea that we're going to be head and shoulders better than anyone with the Bowles/Mayfield combination....nah.

We have Jensen, Wirfs, Evans, Godwin, White, and Mayfield on offense. Vea, LVD, White, Barrett, AWJ, Davis, Dean, and Neal on defense. That's better talent than the Cards have on both sides of the ball. This is not a bad roster. We have players that haven't played to their talent like Mayfield and White. But let's not act like we don't have a lot more talent, and I believe that was @Bootz point.

You want me to say we have a more talented 53 than the Cardinals do? Okay. Who cares?
You want me to say that means we're going to win so many more games than them that it's insulting we're being mentioned together? Hell no.

[Phantom]

This BS is ridiculous.. sound like damn Bootz

[Navybuc]

Why are the pundits thinking the Bucs will be so bad next season? Is it because of the QB's? Is it the Offensive line? Is it the HC? Is it the GM? Probably a combination of all of the above.

1) QB
2) HC
3) QB
4) OL
5) Secondary
6) QB
7) Lack of pass rush

Oh yeah…and did I mention qb?

[kaimaru]

This BS is ridiculous.. sound like damn Bootz

Me? If anything I sound like @Doctor being optimistic. Maybe that's because I was a Falcon's fan until I moved down here in 1989 so I didn't live through the worst part of Bucs history.

[MJW]

Why are the pundits thinking the Bucs will be so bad next season? Is it because of the QB's? Is it the Offensive line? Is it the HC? Is it the GM? Probably a combination of all of the above.

1) QB
2) HC
3) QB
4) OL
5) Secondary
6) QB
7) Lack of pass rush

Oh yeah…and did I mention qb?

It can be even simpler. Here's a short list:



That's a complete list of all the good teams in recent memory with a coach as bad as Todd Bowles and a QB as bad as Mayfield.

[Snake]

Missing $75m worth of talent from the roster. Aka 33% of the cap.

In addition to others’ comments.

[_MB_]

We're not going to scare anybody but we could overachieve into a winning season.

I'd be elated with that.


Yes. Leftwich was that bad.

[Snake]

We're not going to scare anybody but we could overachieve into a winning season.

I'd be elated with that.


Yes. Leftwich was that bad.

I’ve seen more than one analyst end their tampa bay projection with (paraphrase):

“in conclusion, this Tampa team should be bad. But there’s an outside shot at 9-10 wins because the division is so bad, the tb defense should be good, and they plan on playing ball control offense.”

I think that’s a 90% projection and would require a lot of health luck + turnover differential. But the weak division helps.

[Doctor]

We know QB is looking more likely not solved than solved right now. But here's the thing, that's so for any team without an established QB. That includes shiny first round saviors. I don't understand why it's okay to have hope then but not now. You saw how "the greatest QB class ever" went. Our own "Tank for Winston" messiah.

Yeah, there's like a 1/5 chance we have something, but honestly it's like 1/4 for the Panthers and Colts. It's like that every time you don't have an known guy yet. It's the game. It's going to play out regardless. You can't fast forward. Don't get what's wrong with trying to see possible ways pieces can fall into place.

The 2007 Giants were mid af. Go check them out. 2011 too. But you know what, you get hot at the right time, play your best ball for 3 games, anything can happen. Also, papers champs rarely win. Saying "we're not winning the super bowl" isn't brave, its literally 31/32 true every year.