The Official 2023 NFL Draft Thread

[Sdbucs]

His ADP on PFF has been about 100

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His ABC on his XYZ is a 165.

He's basically Thor

[Snake]

I didn’t realize how bad Licht’s last couple drafts have looked so far.

Hopefully this one has better early returns

[mdb1958]

At 82?

Yep

Well damn, I wanted that kid.

[Snake]

Yep

Well damn, I wanted that kid.

Denver was wise.

[Redrum]

YaYa has the physical traits you look for. That's all I know about him so far.

[Miller4Prez64]

YaYa, I am Lorde.

[mdb1958]

Looks like a stud to me

His ten yard split is like our linebackers.

[Snake]

So Bucs have no 4th rounder, two 5ths, two 6ths, and a 7th.

That should be about it on the difference makers then. Hope for a decent return guy maybe and a kicker. For the umpteenth time.

[mdb1958]

So Bucs have no 4th rounder, two 5ths, two 6ths, and a 7th.

That should be about it on the difference makers then. Hope for a decent return guy maybe and a kicker. For the umpteenth time.

Yeah why bother ever trying to figure it out - just spend five months talking about QB's and tackles.

[Snake]

So Bucs have no 4th rounder, two 5ths, two 6ths, and a 7th.

That should be about it on the difference makers then. Hope for a decent return guy maybe and a kicker. For the umpteenth time.

Yeah why bother ever trying to figure it out - just spend five months talking about QB's and tackles.

You got me there!

[Snake]

Ringo losing a lot of $.

Same as D. Washington.

[BucsNBills]

Trade back into the 3rd Licht!!!

[mdb1958]

Yeah why bother ever trying to figure it out - just spend five months talking about QB's and tackles.

You got me there!

Not trying to get you - I'm trying to challenge you.

[Miller4Prez64]

Licht just confirmed that Mauch will play guard and they are looking at Goedeke at RT.

[Snake]

Licht just confirmed that Mauch will play guard and they are looking at Goedeke at RT.

RIP Trasilisk

[Sdbucs]

Reading that Washington has major medical concerns

[Snake]

Liking Steelers draft on paper.

[Miller4Prez64]

Licht just confirmed that Mauch will play guard and they are looking at Goedeke at RT.

RIP Trasilisk

If Wirfs ends up flopping as a LT then we need to clean house. I really don’t like the idea of moving our only All Pro. If he pulls it off successfully though that can be a game changer.

[Snake]

Ringo gotta be crying in the club right now.

Getting repeatedly beaten like a Kieft/Mauch/Jensen step-child on national TV cost him millions.

[mdb1958]

When I first saw Marte Mapu he was way back in UDFA territory - hard to believe he went 76th.

[mdb1958]

For future reference.

https://www.si.com/college/oklahoma/foo ... -adebawore

[Deja Entendu]

Manziel got picked ahead of Evans.

Hooker got picked ahead of Hyatt.

We took Evans 7th. Manziel went way later to Cleveland.

I was fully prepared that we were going to roll the dice on him. I remember they panned to Johnny when our pick was in. It looked like he said “It’s me” but he must have said “It’s Mike”

Thank god.

[Doctor]

If Wirfs ends up flopping as a LT then we need to clean house.

Why is this always our go to response for literally everything?

[Snake]

Licht has two mediocre (at best) drafts in a row. He should be more concerned about that.

[GreatTimes]

So Bucs have no 4th rounder, two 5ths, two 6ths, and a 7th.

That should be about it on the difference makers then. Hope for a decent return guy maybe and a kicker. For the umpteenth time.

Bucs should try to trade some of those picks to get a 4th round pick. Quality over quantity.

[Jonny]

Licht has two mediocre (at best) drafts in a row. He should be more concerned about that.

I can't think of a single player I could comfortably call solid. I know the punter has received that kind of kudos, but something tells me it is more hype than substance.

[BucsNBills]

Okay Licht, for the love of Christ, get back into the 4th so you can get Dawand Jones!!!

[Grahamburn]

Licht has two mediocre (at best) drafts in a row. He should be more concerned about that.

I can't think of a single player I could comfortably call solid. I know the punter has received that kind of kudos, but something tells me it is more hype than substance.

There aren’t a whole lot of immediate impact rookies available every year. Especially with where the Bucs have been picking.

Cappa and Godwin didn’t break out until year 2. A lot of guys don’t.

Maybe Goedeke/Hall/JTS come into their own in 2023. Be patient.

[BucsNBills]

Just gonna leave this here.

9th on PFF Big Board, selected at 13
75th on PFF Big Board, selected at 32
72nd on PFF Big Board, selected at 33
14th on PFF Big Board, selected at 19

Interesting.

[Snake]

team is really betting on Zyom McCollum taking a step forward. one injury away from him being #2 boundary CB

[Sdbucs]

team is really betting on Zyom McCollum taking a step forward. one injury away from him being #2 boundary CB

Very high odds we take a DB or two today

[Backside]

team is really betting on Zyom McCollum taking a step forward. one injury away from him being #2 boundary CB

Would love to get Clark Phillips. But we really need some new pieces on the offense. Finding a contributor or two today would be huge.

[Nobody]

Just gonna leave this here.

9th on PFF Big Board, selected at 13
75th on PFF Big Board, selected at 32
72nd on PFF Big Board, selected at 33
14th on PFF Big Board, selected at 19

Interesting.

I'm assuming, in order, Vea, JTS, Hall, and Kancey, yes?

This draft has been fairly unpredictable on the whole. Some thoughts on us in particular:

1) For the first round, this would have been my preference:

* Paris Johnson somehow falling to around 13 and a good-value trade-up to get him.

* Any of Smith, Kancey, or a big value trade-back that nets 2nd and 3rd rounders.

2) Mauch isn't a surprise at all given our historical M.O. But this can't be a Cappa or Goedeke (yes, he played...he needed to be redshirted...it was a terrible decision to play him) Redshirt. This team needs him to play on the interior year 1. He doesn't have much experience at all in Outside Zone play so, assuming we're following the course of the Seahawks paradigm the last 8 years (and why would we take Canales if we weren't?), Mauch has a very large technical hill to climb in terms of upper and lower half (but lower in particular). The good news is, he's a great mover, explosive and balanced. So he has the inherent trait tool-kit to be a capable Outside Zone player. But he needs to be a capable player. Without any further context, this signals the following I think:

LT Wirfs
LG Leverett or Hainsey
C Jensen
RG Mauch/Feiler
RT Goedeke/Feiler

We'll see. Holy hell are there a lot of question marks in that group (and that is before you ask and answer the holistic question of "how well will this group transition to a primary Outside Zone scheme?").

3) I looked into Yaya Diaby a bit before the draft. Looked like a 4th to 5th rounder in terms of on-the-field production and tool-kit if I'm being honest. Its the traits of length + north/south burst + size + motor and his Longarm and Speed-to-Power game that bumped him up I suppose (Bowles really likes that toolkit and in particular for one of his edges; and it makes sense for the left edge because that helps prevent the classic pocket-escape right). We are clearly drafting for "players who can augment our Twist/Stunt/Loop game up front + explosive traits + motor" with our 1st and 3rd here. The issues that I see with Diaby:

* Lack of bend/flexion. Just don't see it in his game. I see tightness in hips and ankles when it comes to trying to corner. This is not a burst and bend player who corners the C arc after exploding past an OT.

* Not remotely an advanced toolkit or advanced hand usage nor a clear and consistent pass rush plan in his game. No real counters and rush stalls out if Longarm or Speed-to-Power doesn't win. However, you do see reliable pick-man or looper in the Twist/Stunt/Loop game so that should be mentioned.

* Doesn't make the plays that he needs to make sometimes. Misses too many tackles/opportunities for plays.

4) Dorian Williams taken. Sucks. Would have been a really nice add. That probably signals that the Bucs are going to force White to hold out or show up.

5) Hopefully we can get Blake Freeland (LT in an Outside Zone-heavy scheme that is extremely capable there) or Anthony Johnson Jr (S) here soon. Will almost surely have to move up to get one of those two guys.

[Snake]

These rounds are my favorite