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real bucs fan wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:44 am Mauch was an obvious target. Kinda surprised Licht already called him a guard, Mauch looked like he could hang at OT from what I saw. Licht said Goedeke could be the RT with Wirfs likely moving to LT now, I don’t mind moving Wirfs, might as well see what he can do, but Goedeke has even less length than Mauch.

Anyways, solid pick.
Both of these guys are short armed and will get their asses kicked by NFL defensive lineman.
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real bucs fan wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:44 am Mauch was an obvious target. Kinda surprised Licht already called him a guard, Mauch looked like he could hang at OT from what I saw. Licht said Goedeke could be the RT with Wirfs likely moving to LT now, I don’t mind moving Wirfs, might as well see what he can do, but Goedeke has even less length than Mauch.

Anyways, solid pick.
I was just going to say, get ready for that.
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All our guys are pretty versatile. I'm sure we'll find an alignment that works best but it will be done by our coaches in TC, not by Licht on a podium after the draft.
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Grahamburn wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:07 pm
Snake wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:01 pm

He nailed goedeke?
Not yet.. Cappa looked lost in his first year too.
That's very true. Lots of folks were calling him a bust and a wasted pick in year one. Jury is still out on Goedeke.
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Mauch's story...
EVERY SO OFTEN, North Dakota State offensive tackle Cody Mauch will hear from Kendrick Lenzen, his childhood friend and former grade school teammate, via FaceTime.

"He'll be like, 'Hey, give me a smile,'" Mauch said. "It's like he's admiring his work."

Lenzen is responsible for what might become the most recognizable gap-tooth grin in the NFL since Michael Strahan. Mauch hasn't had his two front teeth since colliding with Lenzen while chasing a loose ball in a middle school basketball game. After several dental stopgaps, Mauch decided that he wouldn't repair his teeth until he finished playing football.

He could be waiting a while to fix that smile.
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"His nickname is 'Tud,'" said North Dakota State defensive lineman Jake Kava, Mauch's friend and housemate. "When you think of a guy with the nickname Tud, that's Cody. No front teeth, big smile, long, flowing red hair."

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More: https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2023/stor ... -nfl-draft
I'm assuming that nickname is pronounced 'toode' as in attitude.
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Mauch is currently the lowest graded run blocking guard in the NFL (80th of 80). Per PEE-EFF-EFF.
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Snake wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:29 am Mauch is currently the lowest graded run blocking guard in the NFL (80th of 80). Per PEE-EFF-EFF.
How bad was Goedeke his rookie year?
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Snake wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:29 am Mauch is currently the lowest graded run blocking guard in the NFL (80th of 80). Per PEE-EFF-EFF.
What is he as a pass blocker?
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Grahamburn wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:47 am
Snake wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:29 am Mauch is currently the lowest graded run blocking guard in the NFL (80th of 80). Per PEE-EFF-EFF.
What is he as a pass blocker?
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Snake wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:29 am Mauch is currently the lowest graded run blocking guard in the NFL (80th of 80). Per PEE-EFF-EFF.
How bad was Goedeke his rookie year?
72.4 overall this season across ~1000 snaps. 100% at RT. 28th of 84 qualified Ts.

43.7 overall last season across ~500 snaps. 90% at LG, 10% at RT (one game). His one game at RT was arguably his best game.

Safe to say he was playing out of position.
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Couldn't have moved up just a smidgen more for Brian Branch gd it?
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Goedeke has been great.

It has been pointed out in other threads that Licht is notorious for this. Drafting tackles with elite pass blocking traits and moving them inside. It has worked often, but it's such a huge learning curve.

My guess is Mauch's grades has improved as the season has gone on.
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How has the LG graded out whether it be Stinnie or Feiler?
How has Hainsey graded out?
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Grahamburn wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:16 pm Goedeke has been great.

It has been pointed out in other threads that Licht is notorious for this. Drafting tackles with elite pass blocking traits and moving them inside. It has worked often, but it's such a huge learning curve.

My guess is Mauch's grades has improved as the season has gone on.
I made a graph charting his performance by week. Orange is overall grade. If 50 is below average, 60 is average, and 70 is above average. He's yet to have a game in which is excelled in both aspects of blocking to the point of being "above average" overall that given week.

He was literally a 3 out of 100 against the 49ers in the passing blocking phase.

On the plus side, he's played every game and 100% of all snaps this season...
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Good God. Who kicked his ass week 11?

Pretty up and down overall. Hypothesis incorrect.
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As you can see though many more games with a quality pass blocking grade.
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Licht tries to stroke his own genius by looking for his next Ali Marpet. He thinks trading up for small school tackles and turning them into guards makes him look smart.
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:46 pm Licht tries to stroke his own genius by looking for his next Ali Marpet. He thinks trading up for small school tackles and turning them into guards makes him look smart.
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Buc2 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:47 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:46 pm Licht tries to stroke his own genius by looking for his next Ali Marpet. He thinks trading up for small school tackles and turning them into guards makes him look smart.
Link?
https://www.buccaneers.com/news/buccane ... t-15225853

https://www.bucsnation.com/2018/4/27/17 ... oldt-state

https://bucswire.usatoday.com/2022/06/0 ... ke-signed/

https://www.nfl.com/videos/buccaneers-s ... 2023-draft


All 4 were OTs in college. All 4 played Guard for us. You need anything further, I can't help you with that, kiddo.
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:46 pm Licht tries to stroke his own genius by looking for his next Ali Marpet. He thinks trading up for small school tackles and turning them into guards makes him look smart.
He's definitely bought into the schema of "OG is easier than OT, so decent OTs should make great OGs!"
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:51 pm
Buc2 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:47 pm

Link?
https://www.buccaneers.com/news/buccane ... t-15225853

https://www.bucsnation.com/2018/4/27/17 ... oldt-state

https://bucswire.usatoday.com/2022/06/0 ... ke-signed/

https://www.nfl.com/videos/buccaneers-s ... 2023-draft


All 4 were OTs in college. All 4 played Guard for us. You need anything further, I can't help you with that, kiddo.
Another luke warm take by @Bootz. I have seen a great deal more transition from Tackle to interior line for college lineman. I found this article which confirms that trend.

https://grantland.com/features/guard-ta ... nemen-nfl/

You might have a point if Licht was trying to convert college guards to tackles.
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:46 pm Licht tries to stroke his own genius by looking for his next Ali Marpet. He thinks trading up for small school tackles and turning them into guards makes him look smart.
Lichts offensive line bona fides seem pretty good to me.
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:51 pm
Buc2 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:47 pm

Link?
https://www.buccaneers.com/news/buccane ... t-15225853

https://www.bucsnation.com/2018/4/27/17 ... oldt-state

https://bucswire.usatoday.com/2022/06/0 ... ke-signed/

https://www.nfl.com/videos/buccaneers-s ... 2023-draft


All 4 were OTs in college. All 4 played Guard for us. You need anything further, I can't help you with that, kiddo.
I didn't ask for a link to who he drafted. I could have done that myself. What I can't find is where he likes to stroke his own genius.

Oh. Wait. That was just your opinion. My bad. I didn't think people were allowed to have opinions here.
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Snake wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:58 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:46 pm Licht tries to stroke his own genius by looking for his next Ali Marpet. He thinks trading up for small school tackles and turning them into guards makes him look smart.
He's definitely bought into the schema of "OG is easier than OT, so decent OTs should make great OGs!"
Yep. Wasn't the case for Goedeke. Looking like the same for Mauch. I understand wanting versatility up front, but it's always been forced. The formula is the same for all 4.

ALL OT in college.
All from D-1A schools or lower.
ALL we traded up to draft
ALL we moved to guard

It's turned into a gimmick that he plays into than actually trying to get a quality football player that can contribute.
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Buc2 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:03 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:51 pm

https://www.buccaneers.com/news/buccane ... t-15225853

https://www.bucsnation.com/2018/4/27/17 ... oldt-state

https://bucswire.usatoday.com/2022/06/0 ... ke-signed/

https://www.nfl.com/videos/buccaneers-s ... 2023-draft


All 4 were OTs in college. All 4 played Guard for us. You need anything further, I can't help you with that, kiddo.
I didn't ask for a link to who he drafted. I could have done that myself. What I can't find is where he likes to stroke his own genius.

Oh. Wait. That was just your opinion. My bad. I didn't think people were allowed to have opinions here.
That was not his opinion... that was his "I am not a journalist" luke warm take.
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Backside wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:03 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:46 pm Licht tries to stroke his own genius by looking for his next Ali Marpet. He thinks trading up for small school tackles and turning them into guards makes him look smart.
Lichts offensive line bona fides seem pretty good to me.
Yea that's why our Oline is so good right.....
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GreatTimes wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:22 pm How has the LG graded out whether it be Stinnie or Feiler?
How has Hainsey graded out?
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Buc2 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:03 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:51 pm

https://www.buccaneers.com/news/buccane ... t-15225853

https://www.bucsnation.com/2018/4/27/17 ... oldt-state

https://bucswire.usatoday.com/2022/06/0 ... ke-signed/

https://www.nfl.com/videos/buccaneers-s ... 2023-draft


All 4 were OTs in college. All 4 played Guard for us. You need anything further, I can't help you with that, kiddo.
I didn't ask for a link to who he drafted. I could have done that myself. What I can't find is where he likes to stroke his own genius.

Oh. Wait. That was just your opinion. My bad. I didn't think people were allowed to have opinions here.
You answered your own question. Opinion, of course everyone is entitled.
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:05 pm
Backside wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:03 pm

Lichts offensive line bona fides seem pretty good to me.
Yea that's why our Oline is so good right.....
It's not terrible despite losing Marpet and Jensen recently, and it's improving.

Do you have a list of all of the busts he's drafted on the Oline? Is it way bigger than his hits? Especially recently.

Are you making the statement "Licht is bad at drafting Olineman"? If so, I suppose I will pointlessly go through the exercise of showing that is incorrect. But please definitively make that statement before I do.
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Backside wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:10 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:05 pm

Yea that's why our Oline is so good right.....
It's not terrible despite losing Marpet and Jensen recently, and it's improving.

Do you have a list of all of the busts he's drafted on the Oline? Is it way bigger than his hits? Especially recently.

Are you making the statement "Licht is bad at drafting Olineman"? If so, I suppose I will pointlessly go through the exercise of showing that is incorrect. But please definitively make that statement before I do.
Yea only 32nd blocking for the run game. Not terrible at all. At least the........Which team is worse than us at run blocking again?
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:11 pm
Backside wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:10 pm

It's not terrible despite losing Marpet and Jensen recently, and it's improving.

Do you have a list of all of the busts he's drafted on the Oline? Is it way bigger than his hits? Especially recently.

Are you making the statement "Licht is bad at drafting Olineman"? If so, I suppose I will pointlessly go through the exercise of showing that is incorrect. But please definitively make that statement before I do.
Yea only 32nd blocking for the run game. Not terrible at all. At least the........Which team is worse than us at run blocking again?
So you are not making the statement that he is bad at drafting Olineman, because it is not true. Thanks.
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Backside wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:12 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:11 pm

Yea only 32nd blocking for the run game. Not terrible at all. At least the........Which team is worse than us at run blocking again?
So you are not making the statement that he is bad at drafting Olineman, because it is not true. Thanks.
You dodged the entirety of the post there for a reason. You're saying being dead last in run blocking isn't bad?
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:11 pm
Backside wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:10 pm

It's not terrible despite losing Marpet and Jensen recently, and it's improving.

Do you have a list of all of the busts he's drafted on the Oline? Is it way bigger than his hits? Especially recently.

Are you making the statement "Licht is bad at drafting Olineman"? If so, I suppose I will pointlessly go through the exercise of showing that is incorrect. But please definitively make that statement before I do.
Yea only 32nd blocking for the run game. Not terrible at all. At least the........Which team is worse than us at run blocking again?
How it run blocking graded? By the result of the run? Do you grade lineman ONLY by run blocking? Seems like you are shifting the goal post again Shirley.
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13F11B wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:14 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:11 pm

Yea only 32nd blocking for the run game. Not terrible at all. At least the........Which team is worse than us at run blocking again?
How it run blocking graded? By the result of the run? Do you grade lineman ONLY by run blocking? Seems like you are shifting the goal post again Shirley.
You think BLOCKING is graded by something other than the guys doing it?? Seriously? Definitely can't help you there with this dumbass take.
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Consider this thread...

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Snake wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:17 pm Consider this thread...

BOOTZ'D
I'll take that. Especially when you have people trying to say the dead last ranked run blocking Oline isn't bad AND someone questioning who actually gets graded in run blocking.
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