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Looking like either Ben Johnson or Mike McDonald will miss out on this cycle.
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Miller4Prez64 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:57 pm It’s a bummer I have to cheer for both Raheem and Canales to fail.
As much as I hate the Falcons, i think this is a very solid move. I wish him luck..except on the sundays he plays us.
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uscbucsfan1 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:00 pm I thought it was a done deal with Bellichick to the Falcons. Apparently he wanted to go there.
There were reports the past few days it was falling apart. Assumptions were it was tied to McKay.
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Obsolete wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:56 pm That is crazy. Now if we can get the saints to hire Greg Schiano then it'll complete the set!
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IchabodCrane84 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:02 pm
Obsolete wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:56 pm That is crazy. Now if we can get the saints to hire Greg Schiano then it'll complete the set!
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:02 pm Looking like either Ben Johnson or Mike McDonald will miss out on this cycle.
Reports Washington has their eyes on Ben Johnson… but this may leave them as BB’s only option. Maybe they leverage that?

Seattle is an option for those guys too, but Quinn does make sense with his ties there.
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IchabodCrane84 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:02 pm
Obsolete wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:56 pm That is crazy. Now if we can get the saints to hire Greg Schiano then it'll complete the set!
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Maybe he can be the DC and run his amazing defense of playing his cbs 15 yards back on 3 and 1.
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IchabodCrane84 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:02 pm
Obsolete wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:56 pm That is crazy. Now if we can get the saints to hire Greg Schiano then it'll complete the set!
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Byron Leftwich for saints OC! DO IT DOM!
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Thank the Lord the Falcons didn't decide on Ben Johnson.


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Deja Entendu wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:04 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:02 pm Looking like either Ben Johnson or Mike McDonald will miss out on this cycle.
Reports Washington has their eyes on Ben Johnson… but this may leave them as BB’s only option. Maybe they leverage that?

Seattle is an option for those guys too, but Quinn does make sense with his ties there.
Seattle to this point hasn't interviewed either of them. Dan Quinn is the only one to receive a 2nd interview.
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Also, imagine telling some Bucs fans in 2012 that someday in the future an NFL franchise will willingly take Raheem Morris as their HC over Bill Belichick.
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I can honestly understand an organization not jumping at the chance to sign a 72 year old HC that's 29-38 over the last 4 years.
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:33 pm I can honestly understand an organization not jumping at the chance to sign a 72 year old HC that's 29-38 over the last 4 years.
Even if his record wasnt so bad, i would think that his age is a big red flag.

The Patriot way worked because he was there for so long and had established the culture through years and years of winning and carrying players that helped reinforced that culture.

Starting over from scratch without any carryover is going to be hard and being that old is going to make it that much harder to get younger players to buy in, not to mention he probably doesn't have very many years left before he retires.

The only thing i could compare it to is our own team with Bruce Arians. Except Bill is not nearly as beloved as Bruce.
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:52 pm

Sorry @BucsNBills

Edit: @Doctor had it 1st
Sorry for what? Falcons just made themselves irrelevant for the foreseeable future.
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BucsNBills wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:42 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:52 pm

Sorry @BucsNBills

Edit: @Doctor had it 1st
Sorry for what? Falcons just made themselves irrelevant for the foreseeable future.
You made it clear that you hoped you all of the black coaches that would be hired had been hired with Pierce and Mayo.
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Did Raheem get his first win as Bucs coach against the Packers when they went 0-7? I was at that game. Freeman first start.
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The Falcons made a GREAT hire in Raheem! Expect the Falcons to be one tough team moving forward.
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:01 pm
Imagine if he and Winston were here at the same time. Bucs PR nightmare.
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acmillis wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:07 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:01 pm
Imagine if he and Winston were here at the same time. Bucs PR nightmare.
Now I’m pissed that it didn’t happen. That would have been glorious for all the wrong reasons.
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:49 pm
BucsNBills wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:42 pm

Sorry for what? Falcons just made themselves irrelevant for the foreseeable future.
You made it clear that you hoped you all of the black coaches that would be hired had been hired with Pierce and Mayo.
I never said or implied that. Literal fake news.

I said that we shouldn't hear any more bitching over black hc bean counting, which is still going to be an "issue" despite blacks being so well represented in the league.
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Miller4Prez64 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:37 pm The idea of a coach coming in and just getting rid of the QB is one that doesn’t happen as much in reality as people thinks it does. Obviously when the team stinks and has a bad QB you see a change, but coaches don’t take over and get rid of good QBs for “their own guy.” The only time I can remember something like that happening was Josh McDaniels trying to dump Jay Cutler for Matt Cassell and it ended up being a terrible decision and made McDaniels a laughing stock.

You just don’t trade 25 year old QBs of Herbert’s caliber unless they are disgruntled and demand the trade.
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uscbucsfan1 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:36 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:34 pm

Exactly. I never pretend that he's a bum. He absolutely has the talent to succeed in this league. But to me succeeding is winning games and championships. Herbert to this point has lost more than he's won.

But you're going to have an extremely hard time replacing him. Harbaugh + Herbert SHOULD yield great results.
I mentioned you because you've been clear that you don't think he's on the Mahomes level like some, but he's still very good. He just finds ways to lose at times and it's a concern for you.
Its a major concern. The number do not lie. His worst quarter statistically is the 4th, where his peers get better as the game goes along. Too often his team snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. And usually guys with his talent level elevate those around him. But all you hear about Herbert is how he doesn't have enough.

Let's see: Keenan Allen is definitely a top 10 veteran WR. Mike Williams AND Quentin Johnson are 1st round draft picks. Austin Eckler is a very good RB. Despite this most mocks have them taking ANOTHER WR in the 1st.

How much talent does a "top 5" QB need to succeed?
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So wait, the Falcons chose Raheem Morris over Bill Belichick?

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I believe the reason for this could be either his age or Rich McKay. Take your pick.
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Falcons fans having a complete meltdown over on their forum and on social media. Quite entertaining to see. Everyone calling for Rich McKay’s head.
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Does Freeman unretire and go to the Falcons?
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Navybuc wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:50 pm So wait, the Falcons chose Raheem Morris over Bill Belichick?

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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:48 pm
uscbucsfan1 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:36 pm

I mentioned you because you've been clear that you don't think he's on the Mahomes level like some, but he's still very good. He just finds ways to lose at times and it's a concern for you.
Its a major concern. The number do not lie. His worst quarter statistically is the 4th, where his peers get better as the game goes along. Too often his team snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. And usually guys with his talent level elevate those around him. But all you hear about Herbert is how he doesn't have enough.

Let's see: Keenan Allen is definitely a top 10 veteran WR. Mike Williams AND Quentin Johnson are 1st round draft picks. Austin Eckler is a very good RB. Despite this most mocks have them taking ANOTHER WR in the 1st.

How much talent does a "top 5" QB need to succeed?
Keenan Allen a top 10 WR? Why are you smoking?
Williams is always hurt and QJ was a rookie. You can hate on Herbert without having to stretch the truth my guy.
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acmillis wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:28 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:48 pm

Its a major concern. The number do not lie. His worst quarter statistically is the 4th, where his peers get better as the game goes along. Too often his team snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. And usually guys with his talent level elevate those around him. But all you hear about Herbert is how he doesn't have enough.

Let's see: Keenan Allen is definitely a top 10 veteran WR. Mike Williams AND Quentin Johnson are 1st round draft picks. Austin Eckler is a very good RB. Despite this most mocks have them taking ANOTHER WR in the 1st.

How much talent does a "top 5" QB need to succeed?
Keenan Allen a top 10 WR? Why are you smoking?
Williams is always hurt and QJ was a rookie. You can hate on Herbert without having to stretch the truth my guy.
It’s interesting who you’re willing to make excuses for.
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:35 pm
acmillis wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:28 pm

Keenan Allen a top 10 WR? Why are you smoking?
Williams is always hurt and QJ was a rookie. You can hate on Herbert without having to stretch the truth my guy.
It’s interesting who you’re willing to make excuses for.
You say Mike Williams and QJ are first round picks like that means anything.
Bryce young and Jamarcus Russell are first round picks too…
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acmillis wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:42 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:35 pm

It’s interesting who you’re willing to make excuses for.
You say Mike Williams and QJ are first round picks like that means anything.
Bryce young and Jamarcus Russell are first round picks too…
By all means, deflect, deflect, deflect. It’s nothing we’re not use to.
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:43 pm
acmillis wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:42 pm

You say Mike Williams and QJ are first round picks like that means anything.
Bryce young and Jamarcus Russell are first round picks too…
By all means, deflect, deflect, deflect. It’s nothing we’re not use to.
What am I deflecting from?
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I hope the Saints, Falcons and Panthers have a horrible seasons next season.
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