***2024 NFL Offseason thread ***

[Phantom]

My Browns signed Winston

Fuck

*You have two fucked up quarterbacks.

[Deja Entendu]

My Browns signed Winston

Fuck

[njdungeoneer]

where has there ever been a more screwed up locker room for all to avoid? Welcome to Cleveland!

[Buc2]

My Browns signed Winston

Fuck

[Doctor]

Very interesting move. I wonder what his thinking is. I would opt for the Baker route and go somewhere you can maybe outmuscle a youngster for a opportunity for a redemption arc. Maybe he thinks the Browns are actually a great situation and Watson is just can't finish a year healthy. Flacco showed it was a pretty good spot for a flash. Maybe they just offered the most money. Baker has higher offers to back up he turned down.

Honestly thought we were destined for a Winston in Atlanta trying to hold off a Daniels or Penix or someone. Honestly would've been much more worried about that situation than Kirk.

[Buc2]

Very interesting move. I wonder what his thinking is. I would opt for the Baker route and go somewhere you can maybe outmuscle a youngster for a opportunity for a redemption arc. Maybe he thinks the Browns are actually a great situation and Watson is just can't finish a year healthy. Flacco showed it was a pretty good spot for a flash. Maybe they just offered the most money. Baker has higher offers to back up he turned down.

Honestly thought we were destined for a Winston in Atlanta trying to hold off a Daniels or Penix or someone. Honestly would've been much more worried about that situation than Kirk.

Maybe he has admitted to himself that he'll be nothing more than a career backup and is just chasing the best paycheck he can get at this point.

[Phantom]

Wednesday Day/Night Football?

NFL is planning to play another game this year on Christmas Day, which is on a Wednesday. So a Wednesday Christmas Day game coming.

[acmillis]

Wednesday Day/Night Football?

NFL is planning to play another game this year on Christmas Day, which is on a Wednesday. So a Wednesday Christmas Day game coming.

Shefty says it’s a double header with those flier teams playing the previous Saturday so “normal” TNF-type rest for those four squads.

[Bootz]

Wednesday Day/Night Football?

Shefty says it’s a double header with those flier teams playing the previous Saturday so “normal” TNF-type rest for those four squads.

I imagine it'll be divisional matchups.

[Snake]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/uxLL2NtRwn


^ new kickoff style

[Grahamburn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/uxLL2NtRwn


^ new kickoff style

Brilliant.

[Kona]

I like it. Hopefully leads to more returns

[Bootz]

This makes having a quality return man much more vital. Time to stop pretending Thompkins doesn't suck.

[Snake]

I think a more running back style returner makes sense now

[mdb1958]

Not in favor. Corruption of the game of football.

[Sdbucs]

Feel like coaches will get creative with these return blocking schemes

It keeps the essence of a kickoff without having runners going full speed into eachother.. i dont mind it

[13F11B]

Very interesting move. I wonder what his thinking is. I would opt for the Baker route and go somewhere you can maybe outmuscle a youngster for a opportunity for a redemption arc. Maybe he thinks the Browns are actually a great situation and Watson is just can't finish a year healthy. Flacco showed it was a pretty good spot for a flash. Maybe they just offered the most money. Baker has higher offers to back up he turned down.

Honestly thought we were destined for a Winston in Atlanta trying to hold off a Daniels or Penix or someone. Honestly would've been much more worried about that situation than Kirk.

Maybe he has admitted to himself that he'll be nothing more than a career backup and is just chasing the best paycheck he can get at this point.

He just wants a new city to prowl supermarket seafood sections in.

[Navybuc]

I like the concept of the new kickoff but would have liked to seen them first test it in preseason and if it goes over well, make it a permanent fixture. Anytime you have this significant a change, you want to see how it goes over first.

I think my only issue is I think if it goes through end zone it should come out to 25 not 30. They’re trying too hard to get scoring up. Plus it takes away the concept of surprise onside, squib kicks and pooch kicks. But overall I like the creative part of it and it should be fun.

[Four Verticals]

I like the concept of the new kickoff but would have liked to seen them first test it in preseason and if it goes over well, make it a permanent fixture. Anytime you have this significant a change, you want to see how it goes over first.

I think my only issue is I think if it goes through end zone it should come out to 25 not 30. They’re trying too hard to get scoring up. Plus it takes away the concept of surprise onside, squib kicks and pooch kicks. But overall I like the creative part of it and it should be fun.

I think the rule change, beyond the safety issue(s), is to make the kickoff an actual play instead of having the kicker show off how far he can kick it 80% of the time.

[BucsNBills]

I don't really like this change. It's not football imo. At least not NFL football.

The game of football isn't safe. It never will be. If these players want to be safe, I'm sure there are some Lowe's that need shelf stockers or cart pushers if they want alternative employment.

That's why they get paid the obnoxious amount of money that they do.

[Buc2]

I don't really like this change. It's not football imo. At least not NFL football.

The game of football isn't safe. It never will be. If these players want to be safe, I'm sure there are some Lowe's that need shelf stockers or cart pushers if they want alternative employment.

That's why they get paid the obnoxious amount of money that they do.

No job is safe.

[Cheb]

Feel like coaches will get creative with these return blocking schemes

It keeps the essence of a kickoff without having runners going full speed into eachother.. i dont mind it

There's where I am at in regards to this. It keeps the idea of a kick return while theoretically reducing injuries.

That said, I think it's only a matter of time until more elaborate blocking schemes start to enter the fray here. That posted clip was basically "run back a few yards, turn around, find a different color jersey, and block him." Simple stuff like traps and pin-and-pulls could be huge if you get the timing right.

[Snake]

Feel like coaches will get creative with these return blocking schemes

It keeps the essence of a kickoff without having runners going full speed into eachother.. i dont mind it

There's where I am at in regards to this. It keeps the idea of a kick return while theoretically reducing injuries.

That said, I think it's only a matter of time until more elaborate blocking schemes start to enter the fray here. That posted clip was basically "run back a few yards, turn around, find a different color jersey, and block him." Simple stuff like traps and pin-and-pulls could be huge if you get the timing right.

I agree. Someone could break this and the NFL will be forced to nerf it. We shall see.

It would be nice to have kickoffs worth looking forward to. Not just a piss break. Trick is finding balance.

I’m a traditionalist at heart. But some things just make sense. The MLB making the intentional walk four-fingers signal instead of throwing 4 balls. Fixing the kickoff is more complicated, but it needed fixed.

[kaimaru]

I like the concept of the new kickoff but would have liked to seen them first test it in preseason and if it goes over well, make it a permanent fixture. Anytime you have this significant a change, you want to see how it goes over first.

I think my only issue is I think if it goes through end zone it should come out to 25 not 30. They’re trying too hard to get scoring up. Plus it takes away the concept of surprise onside, squib kicks and pooch kicks. But overall I like the creative part of it and it should be fun.

XFL using for a season isn't enough evidence it works well?

[Sdbucs]

Feel like coaches will get creative with these return blocking schemes

It keeps the essence of a kickoff without having runners going full speed into eachother.. i dont mind it

There's where I am at in regards to this. It keeps the idea of a kick return while theoretically reducing injuries.

That said, I think it's only a matter of time until more elaborate blocking schemes start to enter the fray here. That posted clip was basically "run back a few yards, turn around, find a different color jersey, and block him." Simple stuff like traps and pin-and-pulls could be huge if you get the timing right.

Exactly! Only a matter of time till some coach comes up with some unique return that almost breaks it

[Navybuc]

I like the concept of the new kickoff but would have liked to seen them first test it in preseason and if it goes over well, make it a permanent fixture. Anytime you have this significant a change, you want to see how it goes over first.

I think my only issue is I think if it goes through end zone it should come out to 25 not 30. They’re trying too hard to get scoring up. Plus it takes away the concept of surprise onside, squib kicks and pooch kicks. But overall I like the creative part of it and it should be fun.

XFL using for a season isn't enough evidence it works well?

I don’t really think anything that happens in the XFL should be taken seriously, but that’s just me. I think the NFL kickoff is a little different. I’m sure it’ll work fine…I’d just like to see a test period first.

[GreatTimes]

XFL using for a season isn't enough evidence it works well?

I don’t really think anything that happens in the XFL should be taken seriously, but that’s just me. I think the NFL kickoff is a little different. I’m sure it’ll work fine…I’d just like to see a test period first.

Give me that old time football
Give me that old time football
Give me that old time football
It's good enough for me.
It was good for Johnny Unitas
It was good for Bart Starr
It was good for Gale Sayers
It's good enough for me.

[Buc2]

Nothing in this world remains static. Everything changes. That includes NFL football.

[13F11B]

Some of you would be happier if e-sports players just started playing Madden 99 and it was streamed.

[Doctor]

Am I the only one that thinks the new kick off is rather exciting?

[Phantom]

Am I the only one that thinks the new kick off is rather exciting?

NO

[Buc2]

Am I the only one that thinks the new kick off is rather exciting?

Well, it can’t possibly be as boring as the current state of kickoffs where 80+% aren’t returned. Right?

I get the purists won’t like it, but the current version was far from pure anyway. Same for most of the game.

[uscbucsfan1]

I think the new kickoff rules look awesome and I think we'll see a ton of returns.

I agree with whomever said a RB style returner will be coveted.

[Bootz]

Am I the only one that thinks the new kick off is rather exciting?

You wish you were

[acmillis]

This rule change makes me reallllly happy that Keith Armstrong retired.