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It's that time! Put it on paper the prospects you believe in!
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This is the least I’ve paid attention to the draft in years and I’m quite disappointed about it. I won’t have much to contribute.

I paid attention to QBs the year we re-signed a guy to a fat deal.
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I liked @Cheb ’s tiered board. You have your no chance guys. Your run to the podium guys. Your good chance to be there guys. And then the I’m a little disappointed guys.
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Cheb wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:05 am Here's my final Big Board (I think) for pick #26, sorted by tiers based on my reaction to taking them and thereafter in alphabetical order by last name.

He's Gone, Ain't Happening (1-10):
- Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame
- Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia
- Jaylin Daniels, QB, LSU
- Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT, Penn State
- Marvin Harrison Jr, WR, Ohio State
- Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina
- Malik Nabers, WR, LSU
- Rome Odunze, WR, Washington
- Dallas Turner, Edge, Alabama
- Caleb Williams, QB, USC

Hell Yeah, Sprint to the Podium (11-17):
- Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama
- Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon State
- Jackson Powers-Johnson, C, Oregon
- Laiatu Latu, Edge, UCLA
- Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo
- Chop Robinson, Edge, Penn State
- Jared Verse, Edge, Florida State

That's a Pretty Good Pick (18-21):
- Graham Barton, OL, Duke
- Troy Fautanu, OT, Washington
- Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama
- Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson

I Was Hoping For Better But Okay I Suppose(22-34):
- Keon Coleman, WR, FSU
- Cooper DeJean, CB/S, Iowa
- Tyler Guyton, OL, Oklahoma
- JC Latham, OT, Alabama
- Xavier Leggett, WR, South Carolina
- JJ McCarthy, QB, Michigan
- Amarius Mims, OL, Georgia
- Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas
- Byron Murphy, DL, Texas
- Jer'Zhan Newton, DL, Illinois
- Michael Penix Jr, QB, Washington
- Darius Robinson, Edge, Missouri
- Brian Thomas Jr, WR, LSU

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I think that's still about right.
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I like your board Cheb. I was going to do something similar but I'll just make changes to yours.

For one I have Cooper easy higher in the sprint to podium tier. He's my Brian Branch this year. If love to see what Bowles does with him and he fills our biggest coverage needs.

Id say he, Latu, Verse, BTJ, Barton, JPJ are my real targets this drafts. Big crushes on this group. The 3 CBs after that.

Licht also operates on a tier system. If there a top 15 tier guy falling he'll totally trade up for him. Likewise if there's plenty in a tier we're in we could trade back. I have a feeling it's a small trade up coming.
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Doctor wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:36 pm I like your board Cheb. I was going to do something similar but I'll just make changes to yours.

For one I have Cooper easy higher in the sprint to podium tier. He's my Brian Branch this year. If love to see what Bowles does with him and he fills our biggest coverage needs.

Id say he, Latu, Verse, BTJ, Barton, JPJ are my real targets this drafts. Big crushes on this group. The 3 CBs after that.

Licht also operates on a tier system. If there a top 15 tier guy falling he'll totally trade up for him. Likewise if there's plenty in a tier we're in we could trade back. I have a feeling it's a small trade up coming.
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If Bowers has an OJ fall I'm ready to be hurt again.
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Doctor wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:24 pm If Bowers has an OJ fall I'm ready to be hurt again.
I wonder if Licht would have any PTSD if it happens. Bowers at 26 would be incredible value.


I'd really like Cooper Dejean in the Bowles defense. AWJ and Dejean could be an awesome secondary duo.
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@Cheb


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I Was Hoping For Better But Okay I Suppose(22-34):
- Keon Coleman, WR, FSU
- Cooper DeJean, CB/S, Iowa
- Tyler Guyton, OL, Oklahoma
- JC Latham, OT, Alabama
- Xavier Leggett, WR, South Carolina
- JJ McCarthy, QB, Michigan
- Amarius Mims, OL, Georgia
- Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas
- Byron Murphy, DL, Texas
- Jer'Zhan Newton, DL, Illinois
- Michael Penix Jr, QB, Washington
- Darius Robinson, Edge, Missouri
- Brian Thomas Jr, WR, LSU


Darius Robinson might be the only one around although I heard JPJ is dropping because of a shoulder issue. I think many on this part of your list could be a trade down. But I don't even want them (maybe Leggett later).
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Who in the top 100 don't you want?
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mdb1958 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:09 pm Who in the top 100 don't you want?
Any QB.

This is Baker's team till further notice. I'd rather we build the team around him this draft.
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I'm adding Ladd McConkey too. In the first. He can really Puka Kupp for us.
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I believe he will be drafted in the second round. I'm fine with that
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I want Cooper Dejean, a unicorn at CB
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kaimaru wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:31 pm I want Cooper Dejean, a unicorn at CB
Would you let him return kicks as well? He's a weapon.
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Bootz wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:25 am
kaimaru wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:31 pm I want Cooper Dejean, a unicorn at CB
Would you let him return kicks as well? He's a weapon.
Sigh. Yeah, I reflect back to when I started this process and I was drafting DeJean and Quinton Mitchell with our top two draft picks.

Just suffer with the rest if that was what it was..
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Bootz wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:25 am
kaimaru wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:31 pm I want Cooper Dejean, a unicorn at CB
Would you let him return kicks as well? He's a weapon.
With the new kickoff rules, yes. Also, he averaged 8 yards per carry rushing last year. Maybe he can spell Rachaad White (the second part is joking as he had a rush versus Northwestern last year)
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Darius Robinson has moved up for me. Have him over Chop. Big man, ready to go now. Thats a mean front.
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I can't figure out why Chop Robinson is rated so high. He hasn't really produced in college.

Someone that knows more about this, enlighten me??
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Selmon Rules wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:19 pm I can't figure out why Chop Robinson is rated so high. He hasn't really produced in college.

Someone that knows more about this, enlighten me??
18% pressure rate was 6th. Elite athleticism. High motor.
Chop Robinson tested as one of the most explosive edge rushers at the NFL Scouting Combine thanks to his 4.48 40-yard dash and 10'8" broad jump. That ability matches the tape where he erupts off the line of scrimmage, which allows him to to get past most offensive tackles by simply bending and dipping under a block. Robinson's work with his hands is just as quick when rushing the passer, as he as able to detach himself from an offensive lineman's hands, leaving them falling forward. Robinson's push-pull move to reach the pocket through a bull rush and two-hand punch can result an offensive lineman falling into their quarterback.

If he is initially stymied, he keeps working to find a new opening. Robinson is also solid against the run, ensuring he can force ball carriers back inside by sealing off the edge. One concern with Robinson is that his tools didn't equate to stats in a big way (11.5 sacks in three years. With better coaching and developed pass rush plan, he could take off. Todd Bowles and his coaching staff could be a nice landing spot for Robinson. They were able to maximize Shaq Barrett after he was underutilized by the Broncos. Perhaps they can do something similar with Robinson.
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Selmon Rules wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:19 pm I can't figure out why Chop Robinson is rated so high. He hasn't really produced in college.

Someone that knows more about this, enlighten me??


60 tackles in 30 games - hope?
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Selmon Rules wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:19 pm I can't figure out why Chop Robinson is rated so high. He hasn't really produced in college.

Someone that knows more about this, enlighten me??
Because his athletic profile comps to Micah Parsons and his flashes are sublime.
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Cheb wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:10 pm
Selmon Rules wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:19 pm I can't figure out why Chop Robinson is rated so high. He hasn't really produced in college.

Someone that knows more about this, enlighten me??
Because his athletic profile comps to Micah Parsons and his flashes are sublime.
191 tackles in 26 games. If no production, I ask myself why. It's in the resume.
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All of them his potential should have produced results in college against lesser athletes than he will be seeing in the NFL though.

I've not seen him play, Big10 not on my TV often
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It can be a mistake to try to draw such a direct comparison. The Parsons example has already been mentioned. Didn't put up tons of numbers in college. And was a DPOY candidate pretty immediately in the NFL.

That is the best case scenario of course. But that is the argument for Chop and similar prospects.
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College prospects are on a downward spiral.
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I think he's closer to Will McDonald than Micah.
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Doctor wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:20 pm I think he's closer to Will McDonald than Micah.
1,305 players had more than 30 tackles last year.
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