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With the 27th pick in the 2022 NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select…
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All four have been excellent, but Wirfs has been the best. Thomas has steadily improved. Becton has been great but he can't stay healthy. Wills regressed last season. Wirfs has had maybe 3 bad games, period.
I'd love to know what order OBP had them in heading into that draft. In the wacky universe where all four are available, which one would we have taken?
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I mean JL could've easily overdrafted Smith and Marpet in the first and he'd have "more first round hits"...
I don't think him not reaching should factor into his evaluation of OL talent. The guy knows what to look for.
I don't think him not reaching should factor into his evaluation of OL talent. The guy knows what to look for.
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Licht needs to nail this draft. I can’t even bring myself to look at the 2021 Bucs selection list atm.
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Considering we're going on one last kamizake mission this year, do you know what I'd do?
First 4 picks, minimum, on offense.
Let our first four picks be (in some order), a starting guard, a 3rd WR, a TE who can contribute now and develop, and a RB with hands and juice.
It's a good draft for all of those things. Surround Brady with more weapons, and beat teams 37-34. We're going to take too many hits on defense to expect to dominate on that side of the ball. Let's give TB everything he needs to excel again and let the chips fall on defense.
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Agreed. Goals one, two, and three should be to keep Brady upright and healthy with talented dudes to throw to.MJW wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:41 pmConsidering we're going on one last kamizake mission this year, do you know what I'd do?
First 4 picks, minimum, on offense.
Let our first four picks be (in some order), a starting guard, a 3rd WR, a TE who can contribute now and develop, and a RB with hands and juice.
It's a good draft for all of those things. Surround Brady with more weapons, and beat teams 37-34. We're going to take too many hits on defense to expect to dominate on that side of the ball. Let's give TB everything he needs to excel again and let the chips fall on defense.
And really, with Davis coming back, our defense is pretty solid and has continuity. We have all of top corners, AWJ is an excellent safety, Mike Edwards is too. LVD and White are a still great duo in the middle, even after their down year. Shaq Barrett is great and now should command the best pass rushing matchup on the edge instead of JPP stealing that thunder, JTS was already eclipsing JPP, and Nelson offers solid spot duty there. Vea in the middle is great and Nacho put in some yeoman's reps on the interior as well.
Point is, even if we don't add to our defense in a large capacity this offseason, we still have a great mix of youth and experience on that side of the ball. Especially if we go into each game expecting a shootout, does it really matter if our 3-4 defensive end in base defense is a world-beater?
Prior to Brady coming back, my draft strategy would be to lean on the defense and run game to keep things close while supporting Trask's development. Now that Brady is back, in what is likely his final year, damn the torpedoes, full offensive steam ahead.
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We should be in great shape to just take the ‘that guy is still on the board??’ guy at 27. There is a good chance that guy is a WR, or a trench guy. Perfect.
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Today changed our draft strategy immensely IMHO.
Two days ago, when I wrote, "Go offense?" It's still not a bad suggestion - but we don't have to.
In fact, we could go D with 2 of our first 3 or 3 of our first 4.
Two days ago, when I wrote, "Go offense?" It's still not a bad suggestion - but we don't have to.
In fact, we could go D with 2 of our first 3 or 3 of our first 4.
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One thing on my wishlist - tight end. Gronk may or may not be back for one more year. Brate is about to be 31 and he hasn't topped 36 catches since 2017. This draft class is STACKED with TEs who'll go between 50-100 or so.
Trey McBride
Jeremy Ruckert
Isaiah Likely
Greg Dulcich
Jalen Wydermyer
Cade Otton
Jelani Woods
Chigoziem Okonkwo
We needs to get us some of that.
Trey McBride
Jeremy Ruckert
Isaiah Likely
Greg Dulcich
Jalen Wydermyer
Cade Otton
Jelani Woods
Chigoziem Okonkwo
We needs to get us some of that.
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Low key hoping for Ruckert. Don’t think he lasts till the 4th though?
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Round 1 - I'm starting to lean towards iDL Perrion Winfrey out of Oklahoma. He's 6'5 305lbs w/ an absurd 35"+ arm length to keep Olinemen off his pads. He plays with good burst off the LoS and would give the Dline some juice in the pass rush. When the Bucs only rushed 4 we weren't nearly effective enough at creating pressure on the QB, which results being forced to blitz, which was a big reason the pass defense was so poor (injures in the secondary didn't help either).
Round 2 - WR John Metchie, he's coming off an ACL (like Godwin) but is a tremendous athlete and could be the heir apparent to Godwin come 2023. He's got a RB build/body type who plays WR w/ a physical tone and is a WR you can use in alot of ways, including special teams where the Bucs have been one of the poorer teams in return average the past handful of years.
Round 3 - RB Zamir White, with the loss of Rojo and even if Lenny returns for 1 more season we need some cheap talent at RB to fill out the depth chart. White is guy whose an incredible specimen and runs with great contact balance and forward lean.
Round 4 - CB Zyon McCollum, very athletic and tall/long small school CB prospect that has the physical attributes Bowles covets. Both SMB and Dean are entering the final year of their contracts in 2022 and it possible we lose both come 2023. We can develop/redshirt McCollum as a rookie in 2022 while he plays special teams before he's hopefully ready for more in year 2.
Round 2 - WR John Metchie, he's coming off an ACL (like Godwin) but is a tremendous athlete and could be the heir apparent to Godwin come 2023. He's got a RB build/body type who plays WR w/ a physical tone and is a WR you can use in alot of ways, including special teams where the Bucs have been one of the poorer teams in return average the past handful of years.
Round 3 - RB Zamir White, with the loss of Rojo and even if Lenny returns for 1 more season we need some cheap talent at RB to fill out the depth chart. White is guy whose an incredible specimen and runs with great contact balance and forward lean.
Round 4 - CB Zyon McCollum, very athletic and tall/long small school CB prospect that has the physical attributes Bowles covets. Both SMB and Dean are entering the final year of their contracts in 2022 and it possible we lose both come 2023. We can develop/redshirt McCollum as a rookie in 2022 while he plays special teams before he's hopefully ready for more in year 2.
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I don't want a back that high, but he's got all the tools.
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Breece Hall, no questions asked. I don't care what anyone says, the guy can run and catch out of the backfield. I don't think we pay LF7, I like him but having that 5th yr option on a similar type of back lets me get over it.
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Just like last year, my only criteria is to not take a first round RB.
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I'd take Tony Pollard over Elliott
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I wonder how Jordan Davis would play if he dropped 20/25 lbs.
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On paper im hoping we go
1. OL/DT
2. OL/DT (whichever we didnt get in r1)
3. TE/DB
Also wouldn’t be mad about
1. OL/DT
2. RB/WR
1. OL/DT
2. OL/DT (whichever we didnt get in r1)
3. TE/DB
Also wouldn’t be mad about
1. OL/DT
2. RB/WR
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I expect a DT high - no later than the first two rounds.
I don't expect a WR in this class. We now have our top three wideouts ALL under contract for the next three seasons (though Evans will have to be restructured before next year.) I think we'll likely let Grayson, Perriman, Miller, Johnson, and Darden fight for the last 2 or maybe 3 spots.
I love the idea of drafting a TE, though. This class is silly with 2nd-4th round TE prospects. We'd be foolish not to add one.
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MJW wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:01 pmI expect a DT high - no later than the first two rounds.
I don't expect a WR in this class. We now have our top three wideouts ALL under contract for the next three seasons (though Evans will have to be restructured before next year.) I think we'll likely let Grayson, Perriman, Miller, Johnson, and Darden fight for the last 2 or maybe 3 spots.
I love the idea of drafting a TE, though. This class is silly with 2nd-4th round TE prospects. We'd be foolish not to add one.
Christian Watson is a tempting prospect.
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Watson's my guy, but I don't see us taking him.mdb1958 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:05 amMJW wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:01 pm
I expect a DT high - no later than the first two rounds.
I don't expect a WR in this class. We now have our top three wideouts ALL under contract for the next three seasons (though Evans will have to be restructured before next year.) I think we'll likely let Grayson, Perriman, Miller, Johnson, and Darden fight for the last 2 or maybe 3 spots.
I love the idea of drafting a TE, though. This class is silly with 2nd-4th round TE prospects. We'd be foolish not to add one.
Christian Watson is a tempting prospect.
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Eh, it's licht. Whether high or not (my guess is 3rd round) he'll draft a WR. He has a history of picking one up every year unless I'm mistaken.
*Edit* - 2nd or 4th round he'll pick up a OL from a small school too. (But those did turn out good soo...)
My guess is 27th pick will be a LB / DB / Safety or RB. Based off his past selections and what we need.
DL will be 5th round imo. Then 6th for Special Teams, 7th, eh, whatever looks best at that point.
*Edit* - 2nd or 4th round he'll pick up a OL from a small school too. (But those did turn out good soo...)
My guess is 27th pick will be a LB / DB / Safety or RB. Based off his past selections and what we need.
DL will be 5th round imo. Then 6th for Special Teams, 7th, eh, whatever looks best at that point.
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Bucsfan83 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:33 am Eh, it's licht. Whether high or not (my guess is 3rd round) he'll draft a WR. He has a history of picking one up every year unless I'm mistaken.
*Edit* - 2nd or 4th round he'll pick up a OL from a small school too. (But those did turn out good soo...)
My guess is 27th pick will be a LB / DB / Safety or RB. Based off his past selections and what we need.
DL will be 5th round imo. Then 6th for Special Teams, 7th, eh, whatever looks best at that point.
Problem is we have no 5th or 6th round picks and 1,2,3, and 4 are more like 2,3,4, and 5.
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Guys like Lenny and Logan free us up to take BPA where ever it may go. I know it's tempting to want to try to give Brady as much as you can but a PBU wins a game as much as a miss can lose you one. Maybe we get another AWJ or maybe a TE. There's a lot of meat during our picks.
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Ah, didn't know that. Wasn't paying attention to what picks we have, just assumed we had all.mdb1958 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:47 amBucsfan83 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:33 am Eh, it's licht. Whether high or not (my guess is 3rd round) he'll draft a WR. He has a history of picking one up every year unless I'm mistaken.
*Edit* - 2nd or 4th round he'll pick up a OL from a small school too. (But those did turn out good soo...)
My guess is 27th pick will be a LB / DB / Safety or RB. Based off his past selections and what we need.
DL will be 5th round imo. Then 6th for Special Teams, 7th, eh, whatever looks best at that point.
Problem is we have no 5th or 6th round picks and 1,2,3, and 4 are more like 2,3,4, and 5.
Another prediction, if it's not an Olineman at 2nd, then it's a huge reach and ends up being a bust.
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A prop bet I would take in a second - we trade back at least once. We need more than 4 guys (and the two 7th rounders) out of this class to fill out our depth. If we love someone at 27, we love someone at 27 (or 60, etc.) But if we don't, I'd look for Licht to deal out of the round and try to add an extra Day Two pick and change.
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I had not been thinking like this. I'd been looking at DL extensively. Now that I see it in print, it's not a bad idea at all. Even after Brady goes, those assets will be in place for the next guy. If Trask doesn't take the job and since the current NFL path to glory seems to be luring QB's to the promised land, having a great landing spot to draw one in is sound policy.MJW wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:41 pmConsidering we're going on one last kamizake mission this year, do you know what I'd do?
First 4 picks, minimum, on offense.
Let our first four picks be (in some order), a starting guard, a 3rd WR, a TE who can contribute now and develop, and a RB with hands and juice.
It's a good draft for all of those things. Surround Brady with more weapons, and beat teams 37-34. We're going to take too many hits on defense to expect to dominate on that side of the ball. Let's give TB everything he needs to excel again and let the chips fall on defense.
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Hopefully Terry, that will be the case either way. I don't know why I have this feeling but I feel like we can develop Stinnie types as guards who can step in, maybe even center, but OT I would love to see us hitting runs to the left side with ease. We got options and they can be had farther down than 27.
We can identify just three targets, say Travis Jones, Tyler Smith, Christian Watson and all three could still be there with just one trade down.
We can identify just three targets, say Travis Jones, Tyler Smith, Christian Watson and all three could still be there with just one trade down.
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Does anyone think Ekwonu could be joining our division?
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Yeah, he'd make sense for the Panthers at #6 if they don't go QB. If he's there.
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Makes a lot of sense if one of the QBs fall and/or a team wants that 5th year option on a position player.MJW wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:47 am A prop bet I would take in a second - we trade back at least once. We need more than 4 guys (and the two 7th rounders) out of this class to fill out our depth. If we love someone at 27, we love someone at 27 (or 60, etc.) But if we don't, I'd look for Licht to deal out of the round and try to add an extra Day Two pick and change.