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IronDog wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:01 pm
Selmon Rules wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:14 am

FIFY
Like, Security Guards?
Need plenty of guards to keep them fresh. Assuming we're gonna be rotating them often
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Selmon Rules wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:25 pm
IronDog wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:01 pm

Like, Security Guards?
Need plenty of guards to keep them fresh. Assuming we're gonna be rotating them often
No, no, no. Rotating the guards keeps the RBs fresh. That's how it works right @mdb1958
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:09 pm
Selmon Rules wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:25 pm

Need plenty of guards to keep them fresh. Assuming we're gonna be rotating them often
No, no, no. Rotating the guards keeps the RBs fresh. That's how it works right @mdb1958
Got it... So the more guards we can rotate, the fresher the RBs will be


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"That's tight coverage. THAT is what Tampa needs to do." - Peyton Manning
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nybf wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:54 pm "That's tight coverage. THAT is what Tampa needs to do." - Peyton Manning
Let's see if they do what you said Peyton... well... no... " - Eli
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bump

Mr Bowles, care to explain this?
BoNix just became the first player in #NFL history to:

• Complete 25+ passes
• Cmp-percentage above 69.0%
• Rush for more than 45 yards
• Score a rushing touchdown
• 0 INTs
• 0 sacks taken

…in a single game, regular season or postseason.
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Phantom wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:02 pm bump

Mr Bowles, care to explain this?
BoNix just became the first player in #NFL history to:

• Complete 25+ passes
• Cmp-percentage above 69.0%
• Rush for more than 45 yards
• Score a rushing touchdown
• 0 INTs
• 0 sacks taken

…in a single game, regular season or postseason.
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Seriously?

Todd Bowles puts a spanking on the baby goat so hard that scoring is still down across the league two years later to the point Kiper wants to ban 2 high...

But what gets you out of bed is some pigeon hole Nix nonsense?

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Invoking an accomplishment from four years ago to defend a guy’s current issues…
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Central_Buc wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:15 pm
Phantom wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:02 pm bump

Mr Bowles, care to explain this?

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We haven’t won a big thing since

IIf you are happy with a mediocre record, then be my guest. We need a coach like Jim Harbaugh or anyone that knows how to coach.
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I’ve never been a Bowles apologist, but this is ridiculous. That’s seriously one of the dumbest and most cherry picked stats I’ve ever seen. Dude threw for a whopping 216 yards. Yes, we can add another rookie QB that upset us to the lore, but it’s not like he was setting the world on fire CJ Stroud style.

Nix didn’t look good because the scheme was a failure, he looked decent because the pass rush couldn’t close a book and we dropped some picks.

In my opinion, this game was one of those games where it falls almost fully on the players. There were so many breakdowns that it’s impossible to tell how the scheme would have worked if we executed even half the time… on both sides of the ball.
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Bowles defense has a history of allowing teams to get to the redzone. This puts ALOT of pressure on the defense and the offense. It also is not the kind of defense that plays well with the lead or the deficit.
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The middle of the field is for getting turn overs and sacks. Which we had plenty of both skip through our fingers yesterday.
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Phantom wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:02 pm bump

Mr Bowles, care to explain this?
BoNix just became the first player in #NFL history to:

• Complete 25+ passes
• Cmp-percentage above 69.0%
• Rush for more than 45 yards
• Score a rushing touchdown
• 0 INTs
• 0 sacks taken

…in a single game, regular season or postseason.
Nice gravedig. But yeah, the fact is, his defense got punked by a rookie QB. If this year's results are not anywhere near last year's show him the door and make Liam Coen the head coach.
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Here we are again blaming the teacher instead of thr grown ass men making mistakes on the field.

The only thing I'll blame Bowles for is continuing to ride with the horses that aren't doing their jobs. Britt, Mauch, Skule*, White. I'll honestly throw LVD in that mix as well. He has not played up to standard. But the 1st 4 have not done very much so far.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:38 am Here we are again blaming the teacher instead of thr grown ass men making mistakes on the field.

The only thing I'll blame Bowles for is continuing to ride with the horses that aren't doing their jobs. Britt, Mauch, Skule*, White. I'll honestly throw LVD in that mix as well. He has not played up to standard. But the 1st 4 have not done very much so far.
I think history has proven that Bowles is not a good head coach. Sure, this game was on guys not making plays. Not playing up to their capabilities, but at the same time Bowles has had this issue on multiple teams for multiple years.
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13F11B wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:55 am
Bootz wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:38 am Here we are again blaming the teacher instead of thr grown ass men making mistakes on the field.

The only thing I'll blame Bowles for is continuing to ride with the horses that aren't doing their jobs. Britt, Mauch, Skule*, White. I'll honestly throw LVD in that mix as well. He has not played up to standard. But the 1st 4 have not done very much so far.
I think history has proven that Bowles is not a good head coach. Sure, this game was on guys not making plays. Not playing up to their capabilities, but at the same time Bowles has had this issue on multiple teams for multiple years.
That's a different argument and I agree.

That has zero to do with yesterday though. Bowles isn't why Chris Godwin dropped a 4th down pass. Bowles isn't why KJ Britt or Anthony Nelson are missing tackles left and right. Bowles isn't why Jamel Dean is afraid to cover. Bowles isn't why the right side of the OL is a turnstile.

The problem this franchise has long had is they rarely hold players accountable. Skule should've been benched after giving up 3 sacks to Hutchinson. We allowed him in on a 4th and at minimum there's an additional 2 this week.

Players need to be held accountable 1st and foremost.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:13 am
13F11B wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:55 am

I think history has proven that Bowles is not a good head coach. Sure, this game was on guys not making plays. Not playing up to their capabilities, but at the same time Bowles has had this issue on multiple teams for multiple years.
That's a different argument and I agree.

That has zero to do with yesterday though. Bowles isn't why Chris Godwin dropped a 4th down pass. Bowles isn't why KJ Britt or Anthony Nelson are missing tackles left and right. Bowles isn't why Jamel Dean is afraid to cover. Bowles isn't why the right side of the OL is a turnstile.

The problem this franchise has long had is they rarely hold players accountable. Skule should've been benched after giving up 3 sacks to Hutchinson. We allowed him in on a 4th and at minimum there's an additional 2 this week.

Players need to be held accountable 1st and foremost.
I find it difficult to separate Bowles from the poor execution since it seems to have followed him from the Jets to the Buccaneers. Also, people not being held accountable is a coaching issue.
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13F11B wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:15 am
Bootz wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:13 am

That's a different argument and I agree.

That has zero to do with yesterday though. Bowles isn't why Chris Godwin dropped a 4th down pass. Bowles isn't why KJ Britt or Anthony Nelson are missing tackles left and right. Bowles isn't why Jamel Dean is afraid to cover. Bowles isn't why the right side of the OL is a turnstile.

The problem this franchise has long had is they rarely hold players accountable. Skule should've been benched after giving up 3 sacks to Hutchinson. We allowed him in on a 4th and at minimum there's an additional 2 this week.

Players need to be held accountable 1st and foremost.
I find it difficult to separate Bowles from the poor execution since it seems to have followed him from the Jets to the Buccaneers. Also, people not being held accountable is a coaching issue.
But we're in a thread holding Bowles accountable for his coaching........Double standard much?
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@Bootz Link for Nelson's missed tackles.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:18 am
13F11B wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:15 am

I find it difficult to separate Bowles from the poor execution since it seems to have followed him from the Jets to the Buccaneers. Also, people not being held accountable is a coaching issue.
But we're in a thread holding Bowles accountable for his coaching........Double standard much?
OK. I will play your game. Who should be holding players accountable?
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13F11B wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:24 am
Bootz wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:18 am

But we're in a thread holding Bowles accountable for his coaching........Double standard much?
OK. I will play your game. Who should be holding players accountable?
It's not a game. I'm saying, you said yourself players should be held accountable by coaches. But we're in a thread holding Bowles accountable for his coaching, are we not? Doesn't seem like a stretch to keep the same energy across the board.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:31 am
13F11B wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:24 am

OK. I will play your game. Who should be holding players accountable?
It's not a game. I'm saying, you said yourself players should be held accountable by coaches. But we're in a thread holding Bowles accountable for his coaching, are we not? Doesn't seem like a stretch to keep the same energy across the board.
Sure. I am not following why you think this is a double standard. This thread is holding Todd Bowles accountable for not holding his players accountable and having a bad record as a head coach. What is not consistent about that?
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What are we talking about here? Last week was a master class when the players executed. I didn't particularly like the game plan on defense this week, but overall the defense wasn't too bad. They got some stops.

If we're talking about Skule I think that is a Liam Coen decision. However, Bowles must have had the conversation after the Lions' game as far as "should we try someone else?" Maybe they don't feel there's a better option? Which is a Jason Licht problem.
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Grahamburn wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:47 am What are we talking about here? Last week was a master class when the players executed. I didn't particularly like the game plan on defense this week, but overall the defense wasn't too bad. They got some stops.

If we're talking about Skule I think that is a Liam Coen decision. However, Bowles must have had the conversation after the Lions' game as far as "should we try someone else?" Maybe they don't feel there's a better option? Which is a Jason Licht problem.
If the Bucs had someone better than Skule, I think there would have been a change at RT. And that is where the problem starts.
Other than Wirfs, the Bucs had a substandard offensive line in 2023. You can't fix an offensive line that has 4 bad players by only drafting 1 offensive line player.
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GreatTimes wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:56 am
Grahamburn wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:47 am What are we talking about here? Last week was a master class when the players executed. I didn't particularly like the game plan on defense this week, but overall the defense wasn't too bad. They got some stops.

If we're talking about Skule I think that is a Liam Coen decision. However, Bowles must have had the conversation after the Lions' game as far as "should we try someone else?" Maybe they don't feel there's a better option? Which is a Jason Licht problem.
If the Bucs had someone better than Skule, I think there would have been a change at RT. And that is where the problem starts.
Other than Wirfs, the Bucs had a substandard offensive line in 2023. You can't fix an offensive line that has 4 bad players by only drafting 1 offensive line player.
Well, it didn't have 4 bad players. The RT has missed the last two weeks and it is definitely showing. He played week one and generally Baker had clean pockets to throw from. Since then it has been a mess. Baker was able to escape several in Detroit, but didn't get loose against Denver.

That's also a coaching problem. If you have a weakness the other team is going to try to exploit it. Adjustments need to be made.
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Todd should definitely tell the guys to tackle and get off blocks. It's a crime against football he isn't doing that.
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BuccaNOLEer wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:05 am If this year's results are not anywhere near last year's show him the door and make Liam Coen the head coach.
I'm not so sure that's a statement to make right now. In the last 2 games, our offense totaled 440 yards and 27 points.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:13 am Skule should've been benched after giving up 3 sacks to Hutchinson. We allowed him in on a 4th and at minimum there's an additional 2 this week.
That, or the OC needs to understand that just chip blocks by a TE or RB isn't enough, a full on double team is necessary.
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GreatTimes wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:56 am
Grahamburn wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:47 am What are we talking about here? Last week was a master class when the players executed. I didn't particularly like the game plan on defense this week, but overall the defense wasn't too bad. They got some stops.

If we're talking about Skule I think that is a Liam Coen decision. However, Bowles must have had the conversation after the Lions' game as far as "should we try someone else?" Maybe they don't feel there's a better option? Which is a Jason Licht problem.
If the Bucs had someone better than Skule, I think there would have been a change at RT. And that is where the problem starts.
Other than Wirfs, the Bucs had a substandard offensive line in 2023. You can't fix an offensive line that has 4 bad players by only drafting 1 offensive line player.
Goedeke is an above average RT based on his play last year and the first game this year, so we had two good o-line folks last year. Wirfs has not been his usual self, wondering if the new offensive line coach Carberry may be trying to get them to play differently than they have in the past.
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Payton is 9-0 against Bowles in the regular season. He went into the game saying he knows what he’s going to do. Clearly he does.
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hello, you fucking fraud Bowles

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Our loss was imminent when KJ Britt got the start over JJ Russell.
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I'm wondering what the reasoning was on that challenge for a fumble the Falcons recovered.

If we had won that challenge they would have had better field position.

That is unforgivably bad coaching.
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