2024 Coach hot seat

[Phantom]

So who will be the first to get fired this season? Doug Pederson? Zac Taylor? Brian Daboli? Todd Bowles? (Har har)

If I were the owner, I’d let Zac Taylor go; just can't get off to slow starts most of the time. (Jack Pardee and Wayne Fontes)


If I am the Giants , I would move on from Jones and Daboli, would guarantee to draft Carson Beck from the University of Georgia, trade up in the 1st and draft a good OT to protect Beck. Keep in mind they’ve got a good wr Nabers.

[13F11B]

So who will be the first to get fired this season? Doug Pederson? Zac Taylor? Brian Daboli? Todd Bowles? (Har har)

If I were the owner, I’d let Zac Taylor go; just can't get off to slow starts most of the time. (Jack Pardee and Wayne Fontes)


If I am the Giants , I would move on from Jones and Daboli, would guarantee to draft Carson Beck from the University of Georgia, trade up in the 1st and draft a good OT to protect Beck. Keep in mind they’ve got a good wr Nabers.

If the Buccaneers slide like they did last season Bowles will have some fire under his ass for sure.

[Bootz]

Matt Eberflus.

[Snake]

Guys who have been "successful" but haven't won a ring (can they get over the hump?):

Shanahan
McDermott

Ownership may be at the end of their rope:

Zac Taylor
Mike McCarthy

Brand new hires (it's too early, unless shit really hits the fan):

J. Mayo
D. Canales
M. Macdonald
B. Callahan
A. Pierce

Rehired Retreads:

R. Morris
D. Quinn

The rest of the rest:

Stefanski (I think he's above average tbh. But the Haslam's need to blame someone for Watson...)
Sirianni (I think it's possible he's fired if the Eagles collapse again)
Saleh (Make the playoffs or fired imo)
Pederson (dead man walking, baring an impossible turnaround)
Dennis Allen (I really don't know much about the Saints organization. he's 24-46 career record, 16-18 for Saints)
Daboll (I think he's canned if they don't make the playoffs)
Eberflus (canned unless Caleb Williams wills them to a respectable record)
Gannon (could be fired if the Cardinals have another losing record. poor Kyler)


I don't have the energy to look at the rest. Safe to say, we could be seeing a lot of changes between now and the start of the next season...

[CannonFire]

Pederson? Yes... but only if he championed the big contract for Lawrence.
Zac Taylor? Probably will get a pass if the offense does well but defense blows. He'll need to fire his DC in the offseason and the guy he hires better deliver instantly or he'll definitely be out after next season.
Daboll? Yes... but only if he championed the big contract for Jones.

Holy crap Lawrence sucks. Look, I knew he was nothing special, but I didn't think he was awful. He was straight trash last night.

I'm fine with Bowles. He's not great, but I'd have to see what happens. If this team is worse than 7-10, then I may have to revisit this.

Siriani is out if the Eagles miss the playoffs. Otherwise, he'll keep his job.

[Grahamburn]

So who will be the first to get fired this season? Doug Pederson? Zac Taylor? Brian Daboli? Todd Bowles? (Har har)

If I were the owner, I’d let Zac Taylor go; just can't get off to slow starts most of the time. (Jack Pardee and Wayne Fontes)


If I am the Giants , I would move on from Jones and Daboli, would guarantee to draft Carson Beck from the University of Georgia, trade up in the 1st and draft a good OT to protect Beck. Keep in mind they’ve got a good wr Nabers.

If the Buccaneers slide like they did last season Bowles will have some fire under his ass for sure.

Same old shit.

[GoldenBudda]

I think Bowles could quickly find himself on the hot seat. Imagine if we just witnessed this team peak in week 2. The Broncos game wasn't just a loss. The Broncos loss will have long lasting implications. This is not a schedule that affords the coaches a week off.

Bowles had a great, awesome, incredible game plan in week two. He obviously spent way more than one week preparing for Detroit. We need those kinds of game plans every week. They needed to back it up with another solid game plan last week, and they failed in every way.

Last year we had a huge win before the bye and Bowles gave everyone a week off. That was the start of our piss poor play. Is history repeating itself? It sure looked to me like Bowles took the foot off the pedal again. It showed in the lack of a good game plan. The rookie QB shredded our defense at home a week after we shut Jarod Goff down in Detroit.

I wouldn't discount Bowles making this list. I think it's inevitable.

[Snake]

Well, yeah, he’s been a mediocre head coach his entire career

[Doctor]

Um, Cam Ward is the #1 pick.

[Snake]

Do you actually watch the games?

[kaimaru]

Do you actually watch the games?

You can't keep @Doctor's level of copium and watch the games

[Phantom]

Um, Cam Ward is the #1 pick.

No he is not!!! Beck is still projected to be first quarterback taken in 2025 draft. despite his poor performance against Alabama. However, he did have a strong second half.performance and nearly won the game. That Ill thrown iNT at the end of game was stupid

[Grahamburn]

Well, yeah, he’s been a mediocre head coach his entire career

Depending on how these next few weeks go we could find ourselves in another giant hole.

Losing to Denver at home in that fashion is just inexcusable.

Now you have a game today where the other side comes in one dimensional. Let’s see how we respond.

[Bootz]

I think I could easily name about 10-15 other HCs who would be on the hot seat before Bowles. His inclusion is nothing but fandom. Some tried to make a case that his seat was hot if we didn't beat Detroit because Belichick was available.

Bowles isn't going anywhere after this season unless he retires.

[Doctor]

Inexcusable? Because Sean Payton isn't a smart guy and the broncos players are also trying to prove something right?
Dude, relax. Its week 4.
This isn't college where the expected team is suppose to win and if they don't they season is shot. There's a reason there's only been one perfect team.

Remember Brady holding up 4 fingers during the Bears game? The champion Chiefs opened up 2-1 losing to the Raiders last year. Heck they lost bad to Sean Payton week 8.

The real NFL starts in January. Everything until then is a stress test to find and fix cracks. Now let's see what we fixed.

[Bucsfan83]

So who will be the first to get fired this season? Doug Pederson? Zac Taylor? Brian Daboli? Todd Bowles? (Har har)

If I were the owner, I’d let Zac Taylor go; just can't get off to slow starts most of the time. (Jack Pardee and Wayne Fontes)


If I am the Giants , I would move on from Jones and Daboli, would guarantee to draft Carson Beck from the University of Georgia, trade up in the 1st and draft a good OT to protect Beck. Keep in mind they’ve got a good wr Nabers.

If the Buccaneers slide like they did last season Bowles will have some fire under his ass for sure.

Sense the Glaziers have a tendency not to look at things until after the season (or at least iirc they stated that,) I can't imagine he would have a fire under his ass until next year, if he doesn't flat our lose the rest of the season, or loses the locker room. Both of which I don't see happening.

[Grahamburn]

Inexcusable? Because Sean Payton isn't a smart guy and the broncos players are also trying to prove something right?
Dude, relax. Its week 4.
This isn't college where the expected team is suppose to win and if they don't they season is shot. There's a reason there's only been one perfect team.

Remember Brady holding up 4 fingers during the Bears game? The champion Chiefs opened up 2-1 losing to the Raiders last year. Heck they lost bad to Sean Payton week 8.

The real NFL starts in January. Everything until then is a stress test to find and fix cracks. Now let's see what we fixed.

In a one game vacuum, sure, but Bowles’ teams have a history of not showing up against “bad” teams and/or getting trounced in big games against “good” teams.

[MRM]

I think Pederson will be forced to make staff changes before he gets canned. But the longer they go without winning a game, he's get fired for sure. Dabol would be second on my list to get fired followed by Saleh. I could see the Raiders getting rid of Pierce.

[These Are The Days]

Um, Cam Ward is the #1 pick.

He's a lock for the Conn Smythe

[These Are The Days]

The only lock I'm willing to make right now is the Giants. They need to nuke EVERYTHING and do it from orbit just to make sure they aren't too close. This is a disastrously built team and Brian Daboll never had a chance. I think he'd do very well on a team like Dallas because I'm not sure about McCarthy either.

Hot take: Bengals need to stay the course. Don't hit the button just yet

Hot take 2: ditto the Jags. Firing a coach after 3 years isn't gonna solve any of their problems

Hot take 3: I'm not sure Dave Canales will be with Carolina after this season

[Buc2]

The only lock I'm willing to make right now is the Giants. They need to nuke EVERYTHING and do it from orbit just to make sure they aren't too close. This is a disastrously built team and Brian Daboll never had a chance. I think he'd do very well on a team like Dallas because I'm not sure about McCarthy either.

Hot take: Bengals need to stay the course. Don't hit the button just yet

Hot take 2: ditto the Jags. Firing a coach after 3 years isn't gonna solve any of their problems

Hot take 3: I'm not sure Dave Canales will be with Carolina after this season

I'm not sure ANY coach would have been with Carolina after this season.

[Grahamburn]

The only lock I'm willing to make right now is the Giants. They need to nuke EVERYTHING and do it from orbit just to make sure they aren't too close. This is a disastrously built team and Brian Daboll never had a chance. I think he'd do very well on a team like Dallas because I'm not sure about McCarthy either.

Hot take: Bengals need to stay the course. Don't hit the button just yet

Hot take 2: ditto the Jags. Firing a coach after 3 years isn't gonna solve any of their problems

Hot take 3: I'm not sure Dave Canales will be with Carolina after this season

It would be so Panthers for them to give him a 6 year deal and then fire him.

[Four Verticals]

I think Pederson will be forced to make staff changes before he gets canned. But the longer they go without winning a game, he's get fired for sure. Dabol would be second on my list to get fired followed by Saleh. I could see the Raiders getting rid of Pierce.

Didn't Pederson replace the defensive staff over the off season?

[Pirate Life]

I think Pederson will be forced to make staff changes before he gets canned. But the longer they go without winning a game, he's get fired for sure. Dabol would be second on my list to get fired followed by Saleh. I could see the Raiders getting rid of Pierce.

Didn't Pederson replace the defensive staff over the off season?

Offensive staff is what he'll have to change this time around. Press Taylor ain't it.

[Snake]

I think Pederson will be forced to make staff changes before he gets canned. But the longer they go without winning a game, he's get fired for sure. Dabol would be second on my list to get fired followed by Saleh. I could see the Raiders getting rid of Pierce.

Didn't Pederson replace the defensive staff over the off season?

Yep.

As the pressure mounts, the next step is for Pederson to take over offensive playcalling. Because that’s his forte and he handed it over to the OC.

The defense is fucked regardless.

[Phantom]

I believe Doug Pederson’s tenure as head coach is over after this season. Ben Johnson would be an ideal fit for Trevor Lawrence’s offense.

[acmillis]

Mike McDaniel has a personality that, when everything is going good, everything is GREAT. However, when things go bad, because he is not a leader of men (whatsoever), things will plummet extremely fast.

Is he a good OC? 100%, yes. But, when I think of a HC, I think of a leader, and McDaniel is nowhere close to a leader. Things are starting to tumble now, and I don't see them getting better because the team will quit on him becuase, again, he ain't a leader.

Is he on the hot seat, not at all. Should he be? IMO, yes.

[CannonFire]

I think I could easily name about 10-15 other HCs who would be on the hot seat before Bowles. His inclusion is nothing but fandom. Some tried to make a case that his seat was hot if we didn't beat Detroit because Belichick was available.

Bowles isn't going anywhere after this season unless he retires.

Ever since Sunday afternoon, the talk on sports radio up here in the Philly market is "at what point to we bring in Belichick". LOL

[Bootz]

I think I could easily name about 10-15 other HCs who would be on the hot seat before Bowles. His inclusion is nothing but fandom. Some tried to make a case that his seat was hot if we didn't beat Detroit because Belichick was available.

Bowles isn't going anywhere after this season unless he retires.

Ever since Sunday afternoon, the talk on sports radio up here in the Philly market is "at what point to we bring in Belichick". LOL

Its Eagles fans so I take that with a grain of salt. 3 years as HC. Nothing but winning records and playoffs each year, including an NFC Championship. Be careful what you wish for.

[CannonFire]

Ever since Sunday afternoon, the talk on sports radio up here in the Philly market is "at what point to we bring in Belichick". LOL

Its Eagles fans so I take that with a grain of salt. 3 years as HC. Nothing but winning records and playoffs each year, including an NFC Championship. Be careful what you wish for.

It's not the fans starting the discussion, it's the talk show hosts.

I do think the writing on the wall is there though. Howie Roseman is the one who calls the shots... all of them. The owner loves this guy and it's his way or no way. Last year, the entire coaching staff, except for Siriani was replaced. If they brought in new guys and they fail to make the playoffs and Hurts continues to regress, Siriani will be gone after the season is over, that's a given. The problem the Eagles are running into is that Jalen Hurts is a lot like Lamar Jackson in the sense that, they're only good at QB if the threat of the run is there. If there's no threat to run, they're not good enough to get the job done with their arm. That problem is showing it's head because the Eagles aren't doing what Baltimore is doing. Baltimore is throwing caution into the wind and is telling Lamar to run. The Eagles are hoping to preserve Hurts, so they're trying to make him more of a pocket passer and it's why they went out and got Saquon Barkely. They wanted a legitimate dual threat RB that can take over the running duties of Hurts and stay in to catch passes. This isn't going to work because Jalen Hurts isn't a good passer.

In the end, this season won't end well for the Eagles , Hurts, or Siriani if they keep up this agenda. Now, will Belichick be the replacement? No, I don't think so, I think that's just radio fodder. It also doesn't correlate to what the Eagles want/do. As I said, Roseman is the shot caller, plain and simple. Belichick wants to be the shot caller. The two don't work. The Eagles signed a dual threat QB to a long term deal, Belichick wants a pocket passer (see Drew Bledsoe, Tom Brady, Matt Cassell, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Mac Jones [Jacoby Brissett was an experiment that he gave up on extremely quickly]), that's NOT Jalen Hurts.

The Eagles are also all about "the shiny new toy", not the old retread. After Andy Reid, they brought in Chip Kelly. After Kelly, they brought in the highly touted KC OC Doug Pederson (who was a QB under Reid while in Philly). After Pederson, it was Siriani. If the Eagles fire Siriani after the season, they won't even entertain the possibility of Belichick, they will go after people like Liam Coen... if we win 10+ games, Bobby Slowik (OC in Houston), and Joe Brady (OC in Buffalo). Young guys who have had a winning season (or two), as an OC.

[Bootz]

Its Eagles fans so I take that with a grain of salt. 3 years as HC. Nothing but winning records and playoffs each year, including an NFC Championship. Be careful what you wish for.

It's not the fans starting the discussion, it's the talk show hosts.

I do think the writing on the wall is there though. Howie Roseman is the one who calls the shots... all of them. The owner loves this guy and it's his way or no way. Last year, the entire coaching staff, except for Siriani was replaced. If they brought in new guys and they fail to make the playoffs and Hurts continues to regress, Siriani will be gone after the season is over, that's a given. The problem the Eagles are running into is that Jalen Hurts is a lot like Lamar Jackson in the sense that, they're only good at QB if the threat of the run is there. If there's no threat to run, they're not good enough to get the job done with their arm. That problem is showing it's head because the Eagles aren't doing what Baltimore is doing. Baltimore is throwing caution into the wind and is telling Lamar to run. The Eagles are hoping to preserve Hurts, so they're trying to make him more of a pocket passer and it's why they went out and got Saquon Barkely. They wanted a legitimate dual threat RB that can take over the running duties of Hurts and stay in to catch passes. This isn't going to work because Jalen Hurts isn't a good passer.

In the end, this season won't end well for the Eagles , Hurts, or Siriani if they keep up this agenda. Now, will Belichick be the replacement? No, I don't think so, I think that's just radio fodder. It also doesn't correlate to what the Eagles want/do. As I said, Roseman is the shot caller, plain and simple. Belichick wants to be the shot caller. The two don't work. The Eagles signed a dual threat QB to a long term deal, Belichick wants a pocket passer (see Drew Bledsoe, Tom Brady, Matt Cassell, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Mac Jones [Jacoby Brissett was an experiment that he gave up on extremely quickly]), that's NOT Jalen Hurts.

The Eagles are also all about "the shiny new toy", not the old retread. After Andy Reid, they brought in Chip Kelly. After Kelly, they brought in the highly touted KC OC Doug Pederson (who was a QB under Reid while in Philly). After Pederson, it was Siriani. If the Eagles fire Siriani after the season, they won't even entertain the possibility of Belichick, they will go after people like Liam Coen... if we win 10+ games, Bobby Slowik (OC in Houston), and Joe Brady (OC in Buffalo). Young guys who have had a winning season (or two), as an OC.

Again, be careful what you wish for. The sin seems to be not winning the Superbowl every year. Most coaches will never have a resumé like Siriani has.

[Phantom]

Mike McDaniel has a personality that, when everything is going good, everything is GREAT. However, when things go bad, because he is not a leader of men (whatsoever), things will plummet extremely fast.

Is he a good OC? 100%, yes. But, when I think of a HC, I think of a leader, and McDaniel is nowhere close to a leader. Things are starting to tumble now, and I don't see them getting better because the team will quit on him becuase, again, he ain't a leader.

Is he on the hot seat, not at all. Should he be? IMO, yes.

he heard you loud and clear.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/415 ... phins-lose

[CannonFire]

It's not the fans starting the discussion, it's the talk show hosts.

I do think the writing on the wall is there though. Howie Roseman is the one who calls the shots... all of them. The owner loves this guy and it's his way or no way. Last year, the entire coaching staff, except for Siriani was replaced. If they brought in new guys and they fail to make the playoffs and Hurts continues to regress, Siriani will be gone after the season is over, that's a given. The problem the Eagles are running into is that Jalen Hurts is a lot like Lamar Jackson in the sense that, they're only good at QB if the threat of the run is there. If there's no threat to run, they're not good enough to get the job done with their arm. That problem is showing it's head because the Eagles aren't doing what Baltimore is doing. Baltimore is throwing caution into the wind and is telling Lamar to run. The Eagles are hoping to preserve Hurts, so they're trying to make him more of a pocket passer and it's why they went out and got Saquon Barkely. They wanted a legitimate dual threat RB that can take over the running duties of Hurts and stay in to catch passes. This isn't going to work because Jalen Hurts isn't a good passer.

In the end, this season won't end well for the Eagles , Hurts, or Siriani if they keep up this agenda. Now, will Belichick be the replacement? No, I don't think so, I think that's just radio fodder. It also doesn't correlate to what the Eagles want/do. As I said, Roseman is the shot caller, plain and simple. Belichick wants to be the shot caller. The two don't work. The Eagles signed a dual threat QB to a long term deal, Belichick wants a pocket passer (see Drew Bledsoe, Tom Brady, Matt Cassell, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Mac Jones [Jacoby Brissett was an experiment that he gave up on extremely quickly]), that's NOT Jalen Hurts.

The Eagles are also all about "the shiny new toy", not the old retread. After Andy Reid, they brought in Chip Kelly. After Kelly, they brought in the highly touted KC OC Doug Pederson (who was a QB under Reid while in Philly). After Pederson, it was Siriani. If the Eagles fire Siriani after the season, they won't even entertain the possibility of Belichick, they will go after people like Liam Coen... if we win 10+ games, Bobby Slowik (OC in Houston), and Joe Brady (OC in Buffalo). Young guys who have had a winning season (or two), as an OC.

Again, be careful what you wish for. The sin seems to be not winning the Superbowl every year. Most coaches will never have a resumé like Siriani has.

You're over simplifying what they Eagles fanbase wants. They want a competitive team that has a shot to win every year, just like everyone else. Doug Pederson has a better resume than Siriani, and he's about 3 month from getting fired... AGAIN. I also think you're overrating Siriani. If you watch Eagles games, he's really not that good of a HC. He may be someone who's just better as a coordinator than the guy in charge.

[Bootz]

Again, be careful what you wish for. The sin seems to be not winning the Superbowl every year. Most coaches will never have a resumé like Siriani has.

You're over simplifying what they Eagles fanbase wants. They want a competitive team that has a shot to win every year, just like everyone else. Doug Pederson has a better resume than Siriani, and he's about 3 month from getting fired... AGAIN. I also think you're overrating Siriani. If you watch Eagles games, he's really not that good of a HC. He may be someone who's just better as a coordinator than the guy in charge.

You say I'm over simplify and then say a guy that's made the playoffs each year he's been a HC is overrated. Based on what exactly, because it damn sure isn't his resumé.

[Grahamburn]

The simple answer is he's 3-8 in his last 11 games and the QB appears to have major issues with his leadership. Hurts isn't going anywhere, sooo...

They could certainly turn it around out of the bye. They have a ton of talent.