I can tell you’re a casual. You’re supposed to let the Seahawks think we are coming with a strategy before BOOM dropping Him nuts all over their faces.
Grizz sees those 70 yard bombs & is like “now why can’t we do that every play”
Well casually speaking the speaking if Grizz can cut the playsheet into about a quarter of the size it is now, we should be HIM all Sunday long. I want 80 yard plays. Hawks won't know what him em!
He is the active leader in getting punts blocked. Always been an issue with him. That being said, not sure yesterday’s is on Dixon as much as the line. Dude got through the middle fairly clean.
The defender who blocked the punt got held by us (which wasnt called) and still got through. But Dixon took all damn day to get that punt off.
Well casually speaking the speaking if Grizz can cut the playsheet into about a quarter of the size it is now, we should be HIM all Sunday long. I want 80 yard plays. Hawks won't know what him em!
Now you’re getting it lol
Another convert in the faith Himanity
Hey, 4 bombs and out might work. Do away with the punter and the play entirely. That's another opportunity for a 70 yard TD, instead of a blocked return for a TD.
So, I sat down to watch the whole game this morning.
We had two bad turnovers; Bucky's fumble that wasn't a fumble, and Baker's INT in the end zone with 8 minutes left when we had a chance to come back to tie it. We had a blocked punt for a touchdown right off the bat. We were fighting constant DPIs and defensive holding on our wide receivers, pretty much all game long. Our best offensive skill player Mike Evans was out, Jalen McMillian was still injured. Cody Mauch and Luke Geodeke are on injured reserve, and two street free agents whose names I can barely remember are starting in their place. Baker Mayfield's bicep on his throwing arm was significant enough to limit his throwing in practice this week. Our rookie offensive coordinator was struggling in the first half to generate anything.
And yet, despite ALL THAT... we were within 1 score of the Superbowl champions, a team that at one point in that Superbowl were beating the Chiefs 40-6. We had a chance at the end of the first half, down 24-3, to really fall apart, which the Yucks of old would have done. But we did not. We kept our poise, we fought back through adversity, and we hung with the best team in the league to the end.
Wirfs looked like his old self, locking dudes up in pass rushing prison and pancaking people in the run game. Godwin looked decent, despite probably being less than 100% physically and dropping a few balls he normally wouldn't. Elijah Roberts is flashing in limited snaps as a fifth round rookie and I am excited to see him more, as is Benjamin Morrison and Jacob Parrish at corner. Emeka Egbuka is 11th in the NFL in receiving yards and tied for 3rd in receiving touchdowns. SirVocea Dennis made more plays than he lost and had what I felt was a real bounceback game. Zyon McCollum did an excellent job in coverage. Tykee leads the team in tackles and really flashed as a blitzer in the second half.
If we played the Eagles again next week, I think we'd win.
It's a long season. We aren't going to go undefeated. The sky isn't falling, and we have alot to build on. Hats off to our rookie class, which is looking stronger and stronger as the season goes on.
Let's get healthy and keep stacking wins. Snap by snap, play by play, drive by drive.
Cheb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 1:27 pm
So, I sat down to watch the whole game this morning.
We had two bad turnovers; Bucky's fumble that wasn't a fumble, and Baker's INT in the end zone with 8 minutes left when we had a chance to come back to tie it. We had a blocked punt for a touchdown right off the bat. We were fighting constant DPIs and defensive holding on our wide receivers, pretty much all game long. Our best offensive skill player Mike Evans was out, Jalen McMillian was still injured. Cody Mauch and Luke Geodeke are on injured reserve, and two street free agents whose names I can barely remember are starting in their place. Baker Mayfield's bicep on his throwing arm was significant enough to limit his throwing in practice this week. Our rookie offensive coordinator was struggling in the first half to generate anything.
And yet, despite ALL THAT... we were within 1 score of the Superbowl champions, a team that at one point in that Superbowl were beating the Chiefs 40-6. We had a chance at the end of the first half, down 24-3, to really fall apart, which the Yucks of old would have done. But we did not. We kept our poise, we fought back through adversity, and we hung with the best team in the league to the end.
Wirfs looked like his old self, locking dudes up in pass rushing prison and pancaking people in the run game. Godwin looked decent, despite probably being less than 100% physically and dropping a few balls he normally wouldn't. Elijah Roberts is flashing in limited snaps as a fifth round rookie and I am excited to see him more, as is Benjamin Morrison and Jacob Parrish at corner. Emeka Egbuka is 11th in the NFL in receiving yards and tied for 3rd in receiving touchdowns. SirVocea Dennis made more plays than he lost and had what I felt was a real bounceback game. Zyon McCollum did an excellent job in coverage. Tykee leads the team in tackles and really flashed as a blitzer in the second half.
If we played the Eagles again next week, I think we'd win.
It's a long season. We aren't going to go undefeated. The sky isn't falling, and we have alot to build on. Hats off to our rookie class, which is looking stronger and stronger as the season goes on.
Let's get healthy and keep stacking wins. Snap by snap, play by play, drive by drive.
On to Seattle.
Go Bucs.
This is a very thoughtful and rational take. I'm with you every step of the way.
...and then I look at the next few opponents and piddle a little.
Cool, so now that Wirds and Godwin return, it's time to start losing defensive players. Because God forbid we have a healthy offense AND defense on the field for a SINGLE FUCKING GAME.
If our secondary declines at all, the defense is dead because our front 7 is mediocre on a good day.
On the offensive side, Barton needs to start improving rapidly. Year two has shown progress for all of our Oline players so if Barton doesn't "get it" this year, then he's officially in the possible bust category.
We're paying the price for a half-measure taken by The Union 160 years ago.
Cheb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 1:27 pm
So, I sat down to watch the whole game this morning.
We had two bad turnovers; Bucky's fumble that wasn't a fumble, and Baker's INT in the end zone with 8 minutes left when we had a chance to come back to tie it. We had a blocked punt for a touchdown right off the bat. We were fighting constant DPIs and defensive holding on our wide receivers, pretty much all game long. Our best offensive skill player Mike Evans was out, Jalen McMillian was still injured. Cody Mauch and Luke Geodeke are on injured reserve, and two street free agents whose names I can barely remember are starting in their place. Baker Mayfield's bicep on his throwing arm was significant enough to limit his throwing in practice this week. Our rookie offensive coordinator was struggling in the first half to generate anything.
And yet, despite ALL THAT... we were within 1 score of the Superbowl champions, a team that at one point in that Superbowl were beating the Chiefs 40-6. We had a chance at the end of the first half, down 24-3, to really fall apart, which the Yucks of old would have done. But we did not. We kept our poise, we fought back through adversity, and we hung with the best team in the league to the end.
Wirfs looked like his old self, locking dudes up in pass rushing prison and pancaking people in the run game. Godwin looked decent, despite probably being less than 100% physically and dropping a few balls he normally wouldn't. Elijah Roberts is flashing in limited snaps as a fifth round rookie and I am excited to see him more, as is Benjamin Morrison and Jacob Parrish at corner. Emeka Egbuka is 11th in the NFL in receiving yards and tied for 3rd in receiving touchdowns. SirVocea Dennis made more plays than he lost and had what I felt was a real bounceback game. Zyon McCollum did an excellent job in coverage. Tykee leads the team in tackles and really flashed as a blitzer in the second half.
If we played the Eagles again next week, I think we'd win.
It's a long season. We aren't going to go undefeated. The sky isn't falling, and we have alot to build on. Hats off to our rookie class, which is looking stronger and stronger as the season goes on.
Let's get healthy and keep stacking wins. Snap by snap, play by play, drive by drive.
On to Seattle.
Go Bucs.
Poor start doomed us, several guys on the team sound like they are pissed about that (Mayfield and LVD for instance). We'll see if that changes anything. Still seems like playcalling is stunted a bit by the o-line, but would like to see more creativity from that. Stop trying to do the long-developing plays and go with some quick hits.
Right side of the o-line was about as effective as wet cheesecloth.
All-22 shows Mayfield's INT wasn't as horrific as it seemed. Godwin was wide open in the endzone and had his hand up, ball gets tipped which altered the trajectory. Still, would have been better to throw it away.
Punt/Kick returns are fine on ST and McLaughlin seems over his yips. Gotta do something about Dixon though.
Secondary did amazing against Brown and Smith, Morrison was stuck to Brown like glue - and didn't have to hold onto his shirttail or get there early to defend against the pass.
We can't continue with Heck playing. Just can't. He also got away with tripping yet again earlier in the game.
Also I think some here mentioned that Shepard was held. 2 things. #1 DBs are allowed to initiate and engage in contact within the 1st 5 yards of the LOS. #2 and most important, Baker vacated the pocket pretty quickly here. DBs would be at a severe disadvantage if they couldn't contact receivers on scramble drills. Those aren't typically going to be called.
Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 4:53 pm
We can't continue with Heck playing. Just can't. He also got away with tripping yet again earlier in the game.
Also I think some here mentioned that Shepard was held. 2 things. #1 DBs are allowed to initiate and engage in contact within the 1st 5 yards of the LOS. #2 and most important, Baker vacated the pocket pretty quickly here. DBs would be at a severe disadvantage if they couldn't contact receivers on scramble drills. Those aren't typically going to be called.
That’s on Heck. He’s the reason Baker scrambled and threw an interception.
Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 4:53 pm
We can't continue with Heck playing. Just can't. He also got away with tripping yet again earlier in the game.
Also I think some here mentioned that Shepard was held. 2 things. #1 DBs are allowed to initiate and engage in contact within the 1st 5 yards of the LOS. #2 and most important, Baker vacated the pocket pretty quickly here. DBs would be at a severe disadvantage if they couldn't contact receivers on scramble drills. Those aren't typically going to be called.
While Heck was bad, the DB cannot continue to hold the receivers within 5 yards if they are equal with them or behind them:
Article 1. Legal Contact Within Five Yards
Within the area five yards beyond the line of scrimmage, a defensive player may chuck an eligible receiver in front of him. The defender is allowed to maintain continuous and unbroken contact within the five-yard zone, so long as the receiver has not moved beyond a point that is even with the defender.
Article 2. Illegal Contact Within Five Yards
Within the five-yard zone, if the player who receives the snap remains in the pocket area with the ball, a defender may not make initial contact in the back of a receiver, nor may he maintain contact after the receiver has moved beyond a point that is even with the defender. If a defender contacts a receiver within the five-yard zone, loses contact, and then contacts him again within the five-yard zone, it is a foul for illegal contact.
Shep's passed the defender before Mayfield leaves the pocket roughly 3 seconds in, Mayfield starts climbing the pocket at that point, exits the pocket after Shep's separated from the defender.
Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 4:53 pm
We can't continue with Heck playing. Just can't. He also got away with tripping yet again earlier in the game.
Also I think some here mentioned that Shepard was held. 2 things. #1 DBs are allowed to initiate and engage in contact within the 1st 5 yards of the LOS. #2 and most important, Baker vacated the pocket pretty quickly here. DBs would be at a severe disadvantage if they couldn't contact receivers on scramble drills. Those aren't typically going to be called.
While Heck was bad, the DB cannot continue to hold the receivers within 5 yards if they are equal with them or behind them:
Article 1. Legal Contact Within Five Yards
Within the area five yards beyond the line of scrimmage, a defensive player may chuck an eligible receiver in front of him. The defender is allowed to maintain continuous and unbroken contact within the five-yard zone, so long as the receiver has not moved beyond a point that is even with the defender.
Article 2. Illegal Contact Within Five Yards
Within the five-yard zone, if the player who receives the snap remains in the pocket area with the ball, a defender may not make initial contact in the back of a receiver, nor may he maintain contact after the receiver has moved beyond a point that is even with the defender. If a defender contacts a receiver within the five-yard zone, loses contact, and then contacts him again within the five-yard zone, it is a foul for illegal contact.
Shep's passed the defender before Mayfield leaves the pocket roughly 3 seconds in, Mayfield starts climbing the pocket at that point, exits the pocket after Shep's separated from the defender.
Please.
What you're asking for, the game would be unwatchable. That's how press coverage is played by EVERY DB in the league. The fact that the DB disengaged from Shep at the 5 yard mark is better than what you'll see if you turn on any NFL game. You're not getting that call and any fan pretending that it's some crime against humanity is showing their casual fandom.
PLUS, as stated Baker had already broken the pocket when he moved laterally. He was outside of the tackle box because of how badly Heck got beat here. And what you're asking for again would make the game unwatchable. All of these things happening simultaneously and you're hoping that a DB engaged in a press with a WR within 5 yards of the LOS is called defensive holding? Take the pewter colored shades off. You'd be pissed if that's ever called on our DBs and rightfully so.
I know its not part of his game or even mentality but if that was Brady, Manning, or even Rodgers, it wouldve been a throwaway and move on to the next play.
I love what Baker does but the one thing that makes me grit my teeth is his inability to understand that sometimes throwing the ball away to live another day is the right call.
Obsolete wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 7:49 pm
I know its not part of his game or even mentality but if that was Brady, Manning, or even Rodgers, it wouldve been a throwaway and move on to the next play.
I love what Baker does but the one thing that makes me grit my teeth is his inability to understand that sometimes throwing the ball away to live another day is the right call.
I think the same passion that makes him such a tenacious pit bull makes him unable to throw the ball away - especially if he is feeling the least bit desperate to save the day.
I said what I said
I've got a soft heart and a savage mouth.
I'm like a Hallmark card written by Tupac.
Obsolete wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 7:49 pm
I know its not part of his game or even mentality but if that was Brady, Manning, or even Rodgers, it wouldve been a throwaway and move on to the next play.
I love what Baker does but the one thing that makes me grit my teeth is his inability to understand that sometimes throwing the ball away to live another day is the right call.
That's what separates the Bradys, Manning, Rodgers' from pretty much everyone else. Situational awareness is such an elite part of the game and its not spoken about nearly enough. That was the problem with Jameis Winston. Trying to get those 10 point TDs and you end of doing something careless.
Doctor wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 8:35 pm
I don't think it's crazy to try Barton and Wirfs outside. How long does Luke have out?
He's on IR so at least the next 3 games, likely longer because he can't practice until he's activated.
That said, Barton has never played RT. He played LT at Duke. So doing so would mean moving Wirfs over to RT OR experimenting with Barton at RT. I dont think OBP wants to go the route of moving Barton to a 3rd spot on the line, 1 that he's never played before.
Obsolete wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 7:49 pm
I know its not part of his game or even mentality but if that was Brady, Manning, or even Rodgers, it wouldve been a throwaway and move on to the next play.
I love what Baker does but the one thing that makes me grit my teeth is his inability to understand that sometimes throwing the ball away to live another day is the right call.
Perhaps, but this is ignoring the fact that the ball was tipped.
Nevermind the nonsense caption. Guys doesnt know how NFL defense is played. But this is the INT. I'm struggling to see what Baker saw when he threw that ball. Campbell was the only one with a remote chance to catch it. Godwin was too behind Campbell. Otton was too far inside. Even if the ball was tipped, where's it going?
Bootz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 30, 2025 8:35 am
Nevermind the nonsense caption. Guys doesnt know how NFL defense is played. But this is the INT. I'm struggling to see what Baker saw when he threw that ball. Campbell was the only one with a remote chance to catch it. Godwin was too behind Campbell. Otton was too far inside. Even if the ball was tipped, where's it going?
Godwin back of the endzone had his hand up running parallel with Baker was probably the intended target. We'll never know now as the ball was tipped.
Bootz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 30, 2025 8:35 am
Nevermind the nonsense caption. Guys doesnt know how NFL defense is played. But this is the INT. I'm struggling to see what Baker saw when he threw that ball. Campbell was the only one with a remote chance to catch it. Godwin was too behind Campbell. Otton was too far inside. Even if the ball was tipped, where's it going?
He was throwing to Godwin who was fairly wide open in the endzone. Blankenship tips the ball, altering the trajectory. Can’t find the one I saw yesterday that’s filmed from behind the play, but this one shows the ball halfway there and that the nearest defender see is about 10 yards away from Godwin.
The rear shot you can see the trajectory change after the tip, will post if I dig up again.
Bootz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 30, 2025 8:35 am
Nevermind the nonsense caption. Guys doesnt know how NFL defense is played. But this is the INT. I'm struggling to see what Baker saw when he threw that ball. Campbell was the only one with a remote chance to catch it. Godwin was too behind Campbell. Otton was too far inside. Even if the ball was tipped, where's it going?
Godwin back of the endzone had his hand up running parallel with Baker was probably the intended target. We'll never know now as the ball was tipped.
Thats why I said nevermind the caption. Look at the DB in the slot to Baker's right(I believe that's DeJean). He has eyes on him the entire time. Baker saw that and hesitated because he knew it would be picked.
This was a good concept by Fangio to try and bait Baker into a throw. He bypassed the initial trap but then created his own with that pick. And I'm not sure that "tip" even effected the trajectory of the ball. Campbell most likely still picks it.
Bootz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 30, 2025 8:35 am
Nevermind the nonsense caption. Guys doesnt know how NFL defense is played. But this is the INT. I'm struggling to see what Baker saw when he threw that ball. Campbell was the only one with a remote chance to catch it. Godwin was too behind Campbell. Otton was too far inside. Even if the ball was tipped, where's it going?
I believe this was a back corner attempt/location to the deepest WR (godwin?)
Bootz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 30, 2025 8:35 am
Nevermind the nonsense caption. Guys doesnt know how NFL defense is played. But this is the INT. I'm struggling to see what Baker saw when he threw that ball. Campbell was the only one with a remote chance to catch it. Godwin was too behind Campbell. Otton was too far inside. Even if the ball was tipped, where's it going?
He was throwing to Godwin who was fairly wide open in the endzone. Blankenship tips the ball, altering the trajectory. Can’t find the one I saw yesterday that’s filmed from behind the play, but this one shows the ball halfway there and that the nearest defender see is about 10 yards away from Godwin.
The rear shot you can see the trajectory change after the tip, will post if I dig up again.
Even with the still you provided, this doesn't show Godwin being fairly wide open at all. Campbell is directly in front of him. Ringo is trailing and could've undercut the ball. Are you suggesting he was gonna somehow throw over both of them to Godwin, who wasn't even fading towards the back of the end zone?
And altered the trajectory how exactly? Usually a tipped pass isn't going to have that much zip on it.
