so you'll find more excuses.. got itDoctor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 10:14 amThey're pretty smart.Snake wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 6:43 pm
So, when Baker is inevitably benched by week 8 and unceremoniously leaves at season’s end. Will that mean Baker actually stinks or Bowles and Co aren’t nearly as smart as you portray them to be?
Or somehow, someway all are still amazing and you’ll find more excuses?
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Doctor wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 1:26 pmWhat does that even mean? It was ALL Coen? It was ONLY Coen? It was EXCLUSIVELY Coen?
While I think you are severely dismissing Bucky and Barton as well as the leaps the rest of the line made... and our overall health and continuity (critical)... even if you want to keep it purely coaching... I point to Carberry.
Carberry was the assistant OL coach to Bill Callahan, one of the few true OL geniuses in the league, while running Sean McVays scheme in Washington.
McVay promoted him to OL coach when he poached him to the Rams. LA would win a SB with that line.
Coen met Carberry when he went back to LA to be OC (after previously been WR coach). He then would bring Carberry over with him to Tampa.
All arrows point to Carberry, who directly worked under McVay and Callahan, who is directly teaching technique to players, who installs the weekly game plans, and who is our run game coordinator.
Then add in all the player side factors we dismissed earlier and the run game falling off is not a huge concern of mine.

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Sacks are mostly a QB stat. The eye test tells me Baker is escaping most sacks and getting the ball out quickly. But he still faces too much pressure and takes too many hits.
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Yeah, how they account for sacks is kind of illogical at times. But yeah, probably Baker's success escaping the rush these first 6 weeks has skewed things in favor of the OL a bit. Though I do think Carberry is doing a really good job so far given the circumstances (Heck and the ever-interesting carousel of replacement RGs). And I agree that Baker can't keep doing that stuff for another 11 games. It's just not sustainable, imo (now watch him do it just to prove me wrong again).
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Felt like Coen. Feels like Baker.
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Felt like Coen. Feels like Baker.
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Or we can revisit it now lolBabeinbucland wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 5:35 pmI think if he beats out Trask for the starting job, and I think most of us think that he will, and I really can’t tell you why but I really have a feeling that he’s going to surprise all of us in a good way. We will revisit what I just said in October![]()

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