Bucs at Falcons Wk 13 discussion

[mdb1958]

On September 18, 2014 the Atlanta Falcons beat us at their place 56 to 14!

This must be avenged.

[kaimaru]

The Falcons are giving up 27.5 PPG this season. We will be running up the score against them just like week 2.

[Grahamburn]

I’d like to see Carlton Davis and Antonio Brown back this week.

Or do they try to get greedy, let them rest another week, and try to get the W without them?

[Babeinbucland]

Either way the birds have to game plan for them

[King Bootz]

Taking nothing for granted in this year's NFL. Especially a divisional matchup on the road.

[kaimaru]

I just read on another site that the Bucs were tied for 5th in yards per pass attempt! I thought bullshit, but it's true. We are tied with the Packers. Who would have thought? Atlanta is 18th.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/o ... ss-attempt

[MJW]

Taking nothing for granted in this year's NFL. Especially a divisional matchup on the road.

This is truth.

The Falcons have beaten 5 teams this year. Chances are some of those fanbases went into those games thinking, "The Falcons suck, we got this."

This is a really bizarre year. Every team has at least 2 losses. Every team except Detroit has at least 2 wins. We've been talking about parity for years, but I've never seen a year like this. We're squarely in "Any Given Sunday" land.

I *feel* like this is a game we should win solidly. But if we think we're going to show up and "World Champ" them by virtue of our 53 man roster, they're just as capable of beating us as the WFT was.

[Nano]

The game should be a blowout, at least on paper. They're very anemic on offense(Matt Ryan is having a sad year). They don't really stop many teams from scoring. Talent-wise, they're 4th in the division and it's not really that close. The game is also in Atlanta...where despite being 5-6 overall, they're 1-4 at home.

But it's still a divisional game and crazy shit can happen. We've seen weak teams take down stronger teams almost weekly. I can understand why we're favored by 11+ but we gotta play better ourselves.

On a side note; hopefully we get more healthy this week. We should get Ali back at least this week, and both Devin White and Jamal Dean escaped serious injuries and could play this week. Arians described it more as a pain tolerance thing for Dean. We could also see the return of Carlton Davis and AB this week.

[mdb1958]

Taking nothing for granted in this year's NFL. Especially a divisional matchup on the road.

This is truth.

The Falcons have beaten 5 teams this year. Chances are some of those fanbases went into those games thinking, "The Falcons suck, we got this."

This is a really bizarre year. Every team has at least 2 losses. Every team except Detroit has at least 2 wins. We've been talking about parity for years, but I've never seen a year like this. We're squarely in "Any Given Sunday" land.

I *feel* like this is a game we should win solidly. But if we think we're going to show up and "World Champ" them by virtue of our 53 man roster, they're just as capable of beating us as the WFT was.

I hope on any given Sunday we get 6 sacks.

[mdb1958]

Another shocker.

Longest pass given up by Atlanta - 38 yards.

[ATrain]

The Falcons went toe to toe with us at home until the two Edwards interceptions blew the game open..

I have low expectations for this game.

[Hit55]

I have low expectations for this game.

[MJW]

This is truth.

The Falcons have beaten 5 teams this year. Chances are some of those fanbases went into those games thinking, "The Falcons suck, we got this."

This is a really bizarre year. Every team has at least 2 losses. Every team except Detroit has at least 2 wins. We've been talking about parity for years, but I've never seen a year like this. We're squarely in "Any Given Sunday" land.

I *feel* like this is a game we should win solidly. But if we think we're going to show up and "World Champ" them by virtue of our 53 man roster, they're just as capable of beating us as the WFT was.

I hope on any given Sunday we get 6 sacks.

We've dominated both lines the last two weeks. I'm hoping we can make it three in a row.

[13F11B]

This game has all the makings of a trap game. The Colts game was a hard-fought game that came down to the last second. With this being a division game and the Falcons reduced to playing a spoiler role the pressure will be on the Buccaneers to keep pace in the hopes of getting a bye and winning the division. I trust Tom Brady and Lenny to push the team and avoid the trap but I am still nervous about the game.

[mdb1958]

This game has all the makings of a trap game. The Colts game was a hard-fought game that came down to the last second. With this being a division game and the Falcons reduced to playing a spoiler role the pressure will be on the Buccaneers to keep pace in the hopes of getting a bye and winning the division. I trust Tom Brady and Lenny to push the team and avoid the trap but I am still nervous about the game.

Listen to three Aurora songs and you should be good to go!

[King Bootz]

This game has all the makings of a trap game.

[nybf]

I have low expectations for this game.

Stop feeding the troll.

[BJJ34]

There is no such thing as an NFL trap game. Even the Lions played the Ravens tough. The Ravens are #1 in the AFC. The Lions are winless. Stop. It took a 66 yarder for them to remain winless.

The Falcons have a lot more to play for than we do(looking at the current situation). They need a win more than we do. Don't underestimate that when it comes to outcomes of NFL games. It's usually the more hungry team that wins the game.

[13F11B]

The Falcons have a lot more to play for than we do(looking at the current situation). They need a win more than we do. Don't underestimate that when it comes to outcomes of NFL games. It's usually the more hungry team that wins the game.

By definition, you just described a trap game. Don't worry about it though since you claim they don't exist.

[BJJ34]

There is no such thing as an NFL trap game. Even the Lions played the Ravens tough. The Ravens are #1 in the AFC. The Lions are winless. Stop. It took a 66 yarder for them to remain winless.

The Falcons have a lot more to play for than we do(looking at the current situation). They need a win more than we do. Don't underestimate that when it comes to outcomes of NFL games. It's usually the more hungry team that wins the game.

By definition, you just described a trap game. Don't worry about it though since you claim they don't exist.

A trap game is when you're playing someone clearly inferior to you. The NFL, which is a league of parity, is a collection of paid professionals. These guys could beat anyone on any given Sunday. We would be looking ahead to what? The Bills on a short week for them? The Falcons are in the playoff hunt. I know we all view them as the lowly Falcons... but they're playing pretty decent football. Enough to have 5 wins.

[13F11B]

By definition, you just described a trap game. Don't worry about it though since you claim they don't exist.

A trap game is when you're playing someone clearly inferior to you.

I agree with you that the talent level in the NFL is very close. Because of this, I do not define an NFL trap game the same way you do.

My definition is when a team:
- is playing an opponent generally seen as a weaker opponent
- has a higher profile matchup the following weak

and/or

- just played a highly emotional game the previous week

That is what I mean by saying this game is a trap game for the Buccaneers.

[BLT]

Aside from all the other ways we are superior to the Falcons... Shaq, JTS, Suh, Vea, Nelson should dominate the line of scrimmage and make this look like a day at the office type win.

[Dread]

This game has all the makings of a trap game.

Agreed.

I don't know how a divisional game that is sandwiched between two non-conference opponents (Colts, Bills) could be a trap game.

Divisional games are almost never, ever trap games.

[Dread]

The Bucs should win this game by double digits.

Falcons are weak along the Oline and outside of Pitts don't have many good options in the passing game.

Defensively they are very meh. They have some athleticism at LB and Grady Jarrett can be a disruptor at DT. But they aren't very stout on either line so the Bucs should own the LoS on both sides of the ball again.

So short of some fuckery and being badly outcoached this should be an enjoyable Sunday afternoon for the Bucs.

[ATrain]

The Bucs should win this game by double digits.

Falcons are weak along the Oline and outside of Pitts don't have many good options in the passing game.

Defensively they are very meh. They have some athleticism at LB and Grady Jarrett can be a disruptor at DT. But they aren't very stout on either line so the Bucs should own the LoS on both sides of the ball again.

So short of some fuckery and being badly outcoached this should be an enjoyable Sunday afternoon for the Bucs.

This needs to be a Get Right game for Brady. No more turnovers, 300+ yards, deadly accurate, 3+ TDs. If he can't do that vs the Falcons, then I'm not sure he's going to snap out of the month long slump he's been on.

[Hit55]

Stop feeding the troll.

Just wanted an excuse to use the gif.

[Nano]

Overall Week 13 rankings by PFF

Offense

Player	Position Rank	Grade
Tom Brady	1/36	91.5
Leonard Fournette	15/59	75.3
Antonio Brown	4/127	87.4
Chris Godwin	10/127	79.3
Mike Evans	60/127	68.3
OJ Howard	70/75	50.2
Rob Gronkowski	2/75	88.1
Ryan Jensen	12/39	71.2
Alex Cappa	20/81	70.8
Ali Marpet	7/81	80.8
Tristan Wirfs	12/81	80.7
Donovan Smith	5/81	83.3

Defense

Player	Position Rank	Grade
Ross Cockrell	36/118	67.2
Jamal Dean	8/118	77.1
Carlton Davis	18/118	73.9
Sean Murphy-Bunting	N/A	60.5
Mike Edwards	18/91	74.6
Jordan Whitehead	33/91	68.3
Antoine Winfield Jr	2/91	86.0
Devin White	87/86	-7.9
Lavonte David	11/83	69.9
Steve McLendon	N/A	59.0
Ndamukong Suh	97/123	50.3
Rakeem Nunez-Roches	65/123	59.3
Vita Vea	16/123	74.2
William Gholston	68/123	58.5
Shaquil Barrett	12/110	83.6
Jason Pierre-Paul	103/110	50.7
Joe Tryon-Shoyinka	97/110	54.1

STs

Player	Position Rank	Grade
Ryan Succop	N/A	61.0
Bradley Pinion	13/33	65.5

[uscbucsfan]

I would guess the Devin White rating and ranking is a joke?

87 out of 86 players with a -7.9.

[The Outsider]

I am once again asking for you to bring back the downvote button.

[Nano]

I would guess the Devin White rating and ranking is a joke?

87 out of 86 players with a -7.9.

Yeah, it's a joke. His actual ranking was like 72/83 and his overall rating is 39. For w/e reason, they hate the guy. They always have, but this season is probably their most ridiculous view yet.

[King Bootz]

It's all bullshit

[Tnbandwagoner]

I would guess the Devin White rating and ranking is a joke?

87 out of 86 players with a -7.9.

I noticed that also. Is he ranked below himself? Not very intelligible.

[Cheb]

I thinks we win, but I would like to see us start faster and play to our potential instead of playing to our opponent's level.

Here's hoping for a healthy game all around.

[Dread]

I would guess the Devin White rating and ranking is a joke?

87 out of 86 players with a -7.9.

Yeah, it's a joke. His actual ranking was like 72/83 and his overall rating is 39. For w/e reason, they hate the guy. They always have, but this season is probably their most ridiculous view yet.

It's crazy b/c the NFL players and coaches think very highly of him based on his draft grade, selection, and #28 ranking in the NFL top 100 after his 2nd NFL season.

He's also a top pro bowl vote getter, so he has national notoriety from fans. Which has never been easy for Bucs players, just ask Lavonte.

Yet PFF hates the guy.

[MJW]

| Ryan Succop | N/A | 61.0 |

Someone at PFF needs to explain to me how these "advanced metrics" work.

The guy kicked 6 footballs at the goalposts. All six went through. He was literally perfect at executing his only job. Yet some neckbeard wipes the Hot Pocket grease off his fingers long enough to type, "Kicks weren't perfect enough. The Metrics have spoken. 61!" and it's a real thing that people are supposed to value.