Tampa Bay Buccaneers Official 2023 Off Season Thread

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Phantom wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:07 pm
Snake wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:54 pm Some people were actually convinced this team would meaningfully compete lol
What if Bucs go 13-4 with Mayfield, would you be happy with that?
Sure would.
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I hope they don’t sign Baker. I see no benefit and potentially negating a Dean comp pick would be really irresponsible.
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Naismith wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:10 pm I hope they don’t sign Baker. I see no benefit and potentially negating a Dean comp pick would be really irresponsible.
I think it’s a guarantee they sign one of these QBs with starting experience to compete against/backup Trask.
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You mean do the thing they've been saying they want to do this whole time? Bold take.
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Doctor wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:36 pm You mean do the thing they've been saying they want to do this whole time? Bold take.
Clearly they have so much faith in Trask.
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Ain't nobody trading for a trash guard, fam. Especially one in their contract year.

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Bootz wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:12 pm Ain't nobody trading for a trash guard, fam. Especially one in their contract year.

I also would be surprised if we can find a trade partner, but there is alot of movement with guards at the start of the legal tampering period, so maybe somebody would get desperate? I wouldn't hold my breath.

It doesn't matter if we cut or trade him from a savings perspective, the Bucs get $5.3 million in cap space with $4.3 million in dead cap either way.
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Cheb wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:16 pm
Bootz wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:12 pm Ain't nobody trading for a trash guard, fam. Especially one in their contract year.

I also would be surprised if we can find a trade partner, but there is alot of movement with guards at the start of the legal tampering period, so maybe somebody would get desperate? I wouldn't hold my breath.

It doesn't matter if we cut or trade him from a savings perspective, the Bucs get $5.3 million in cap space with $4.3 million in dead cap either way.
His deal also comes with 4 void years. No team is gonna take that on in addition to his $7.5mil salary.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:22 pm
Cheb wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:16 pm

I also would be surprised if we can find a trade partner, but there is alot of movement with guards at the start of the legal tampering period, so maybe somebody would get desperate? I wouldn't hold my breath.

It doesn't matter if we cut or trade him from a savings perspective, the Bucs get $5.3 million in cap space with $4.3 million in dead cap either way.
His deal also comes with 4 void years. No team is gonna take that on in addition to his $7.5mil salary.
I hadn't thought about the void years, but that makes it even less likely for getting a trade partner.

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Slight glimpse into the future.



Taylor is a above average RT and he'll be making $20mil/year. Tristan Wirfs will be signing a new deal soon. Negotiations will start above this amount.
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I don't get off on calling NFL players "trash" but that's just me.
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Sdbucs wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:02 pm
BucsNBills wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:57 pm

Gotta keep up with the Rams for the race for Caleb Williams.
Baker Mayfield is not the right course of action in that endeavor
He was 2-8 as a starter last season.
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_MB_ wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:48 pm I don't get off on calling NFL players "trash" but that's just me.
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Grahamburn wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:56 pm
Sdbucs wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:02 pm

Baker Mayfield is not the right course of action in that endeavor
He was 2-8 as a starter last season.
Baker also threw 10 TD's and 8 INT's. I would be as excited about the Bucs picking up Mayfield as I would a return of Jamies Winston.
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10 TDs and 8 INTs...In 10 games. TRASH
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I mean, do people really put no weight on anything else... like the system, the coach, the players or scheme... it's purely just "he had his hand on a football and threw 10 TDs".
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He has arm talent, that’s about it. Same as Winston.

Huge disappointments relative to draft position.

Edit: Winston can actually scramble tho.
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Doctor wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:49 pm I mean, do people really put no weight on anything else... like the system, the coach, the players or scheme... it's purely just "he had his hand on a football and threw 10 TDs".
Those of us who have played realize that at the end of the day it really is that simple. Oh! But I'm sure you will want to hide behind a nuanced discussion.
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Doctor wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:49 pm I mean, do people really put no weight on anything else... like the system, the coach, the players or scheme... it's purely just "he had his hand on a football and threw 10 TDs".
Things have to be near perfect for Baker to excel consistently. And even so, he won’t be elite.
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4/52. I like Dean. Fine with this move in a vacuum. Still unsure what the plan is.
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Pretty sure his cap hit is minimal this year and there's like 37 voided years added on. Even still I think we overpaid him.
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Oh wow. I did not see this coming at all. What a re-sign.
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Very happy to keep Dean. LVD next please.
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I thought he was gone for sure. Not as much as I thought he would get. This opens up a lot of possibilities with their first round pick. I don't see them investing a lot in the QB position financially now.
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Anytime I hear that a team doesn't plan go invest a lot in their QB position it means they don't plan to win. Honestly would've rather upgraded from Dean and re‐signed LVD with this money.
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Very surprised by this move, but he might have gotten a better deal elsewhere.
He fits the man scheme(not zone), should be interesting to hear details on contract. Average per year isn't that bad.
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$26mil guaranteed
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Damn, great news! We're not pigeonholed into a corner now.
We're paying the price for a half-measure taken by The Union 160 years ago.

The New Union will correct that mistake.
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4-52-26 for Dean.

Great deal.
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Bring on the OL/Edge guys early now.

Though I don’t mind another CB in the 3rd of a good one is there
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They need to keep David. Hope to hear that announcement.
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Love this video on Dean:

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