MVP: Baker Mayfield

[__Chef__]

Mayfield didn’t play well in the last two games

Good time to negotiate a new contract.

[Zarni]

Mayfield didn’t play well in the last two games

Good time to negotiate a new contract.

He’s a bum, Trade him to Cleveland

[Central_Buc]

Good time to negotiate a new contract.

He’s a bum, Trade him to Cleveland

You should consider coming over to the dark side

Which ive been meaning to ask...has there been any in Cleveland converting to TB or wearing Tampa Baker Jerseys?

[Zarni]

He’s a bum, Trade him to Cleveland

You should consider coming over to the dark side

Which ive been meaning to ask...has there been any in Cleveland converting to TB or wearing Tampa Baker Jerseys?

Occasionally, you see Mayfield jerseys…. But that’s about it.

I do like the Bucs… I could just never give up on my browns!!

[Central_Buc]

Historically speaking one of the heaviest weighted variables for MVP is leading your team to a BYE week.

Mayfield didn’t play well in the last two games, but hopefully, after the week, he’ll be fully healed and ready to play.

The Bucs need him to play an A+ game because the next three games are not winable

He'll back in the convo if a win tomorrow and he at least out performs Allen in Buffalo

Edit: meaning Mvp.

[Phantom]

Maybe next year

[Sdbucs]

If he had completed that comeback today he’d be back in the lead. Bummer.

[Jonny]

If he had completed that comeback today he’d be back in the lead. Bummer.

With the way he is playing and this team is playing, I just don't see any real path for him. This topic is done and over with.

[BucsNBills]

Yeah, any chance of winning MVP is now over. Probably for the best though, because IMO we don't need to extend Baker this off-season. Let him play out next year and earn another contract. Right now he's not playing like a QB I want to invest any more money into.

[Jonny]

Yeah, any chance of winning MVP is now over. Probably for the best though, because IMO we don't need to extend Baker this off-season. Let him play out next year and earn another contract. Right now he's not playing like a QB I want to invest any more money into.

I would not go that far. But he certainly isn't playing like a guy that needs to be on that 50-55Mil range. Now worse QBs than Baker are being paid that money, but that should not justify Baker being paid that much.

[Onthebrink]

Even if he did come back against the Pats he wouldn't be close to the lead. Mathew Stafford should be at this point or Jonathon Taylor.

[13F11B]

Baker will no longer be considered for MVP.

[Selmon Rules]

/thread

[Grahamburn]

Yeah, any chance of winning MVP is now over. Probably for the best though, because IMO we don't need to extend Baker this off-season. Let him play out next year and earn another contract. Right now he's not playing like a QB I want to invest any more money into.

Yeah he gave up four plays of over 70+ yards today.

[Cheb]

I don't care much about individual awards. Baker winning MVP is a distraction of the real goal, which is winning a Superbowl.

Baker is playing well, as well as can be expected given the injuries on offense to his weapons and the men who protect him. I hope he continues to do so.

[Onthebrink]

I don't care much about individual awards. Baker winning MVP is a distraction of the real goal, which is winning a Superbowl.

Baker is playing well, as well as can be expected given the injuries on offense to his weapons and the men who protect him. I hope he continues to do so.

Define the word well. I know that most of you are not versed in even basic vocabulary but I would like to know. Adequate? Now we are getting into subjective opinions. As well as you expect. Some of us expect more from a QB that makes 100 million dollars. When he was making 5 on a prove it contract absolutely. A lot of us expect more. You went into a thread about Baker winning MVP and then said "I don't care about the subject of the thread. It is a distraction." Not when it first appeared but 8 weeks later. It would be like going into a GDT and saying "this game doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is the Super Bowl." This team has ZERO chance of a Super Bowl just like the last two seasons. Admit it.

[13F11B]

I don't care much about individual awards. Baker winning MVP is a distraction of the real goal, which is winning a Superbowl.

Baker is playing well, as well as can be expected given the injuries on offense to his weapons and the men who protect him. I hope he continues to do so.

Define the word well. I know that most of you are not versed in even basic vocabulary but I would like to know. Adequate? Now we are getting into subjective opinions. As well as you expect. Some of us expect more from a QB that makes 100 million dollars. When he was making 5 on a prove it contract absolutely. A lot of us expect more. You went into a thread about Baker winning MVP and then said "I don't care about the subject of the thread. It is a distraction." Not when it first appeared but 8 weeks later. It would be like going into a GDT and saying "this game doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is the Super Bowl." This team has ZERO chance of a Super Bowl just like the last two seasons. Admit it.

I won't say this team has zero chance, but it will take a few perfect games and a few lucky bounces.

[Al Bundy]

Bakers MVP went out the window against the Lions.

[13F11B]

Bakers MVP went out the window against the Lions.

Nah. If he had a great game against the Saints, and against the Patriots in a win he would still have been in the discussion.

[Cheb]

I don't care much about individual awards. Baker winning MVP is a distraction of the real goal, which is winning a Superbowl.

Baker is playing well, as well as can be expected given the injuries on offense to his weapons and the men who protect him. I hope he continues to do so.

Define the word well. I know that most of you are not versed in even basic vocabulary but I would like to know. Adequate? Now we are getting into subjective opinions. As well as you expect. Some of us expect more from a QB that makes 100 million dollars. When he was making 5 on a prove it contract absolutely. A lot of us expect more. You went into a thread about Baker winning MVP and then said "I don't care about the subject of the thread. It is a distraction." Not when it first appeared but 8 weeks later. It would be like going into a GDT and saying "this game doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is the Super Bowl." This team has ZERO chance of a Super Bowl just like the last two seasons. Admit it.

Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Jalen McMillan accounted for 2000 receiving yards and 24 touchdowns last season. Bucky Irving had 1500 scrimmage yards and 8 touchdowns. Those men are not on the field helping win games, they have spent the majority of their seasons on the trainer's table.

Baker Mayfield's current top three receivers are two rookies and a NFL journeyman. His offensive line has been patchwork all year. He's on his third offensive coordinator in three seasons, having lifted the prior two to head coaching jobs. His running game has once more regressed into a bottom 10 NFL unit.

And yet, despite all that, we still have not only a winning record, but we have a lead in our division and the current #4 seed in the playoffs. And who is the guy who has accounted for 72% of our offensive touchdowns, without whose late-game heroics earlier in the season we would be talking about draft position right now? Baker Mayfield.

So yeah. He's playing adequate, as you put it. Well, as I put it. Not perfect, but given all the handicaps we've had offensively, I think he's playing solid ball.

If you have difficulty comprehending the audacity of subjective descriptors of play, then I suggest you pick another sport to watch...but wait, all sports are filled with subjective descriptors of performance. Maybe read a book...nope, too subjective. Make love...nope, again subjective. Maybe just eat saltines and stare at a wall, or frown into a calculator, or masturbate to the ridiculous and inherently false proposition that there's anything close to objective truth, when as we all know that even ideas formerly thought of as objective truth such as the speed of light (which has been in fact been proven to not be a constant) are not constant, ignoring the truth that you yourself are an inherently subjective being in a world wherein meaning is only described by and won by subjective beings in an inherently subjective universe.

If you cling to objectivity, cling to this; the goal of any a team sport is team accomplishment, and individual awards are laurels collected along the way. I have believed this for decades and I'll believe it when I'm in the cold ground. I didn't say it before to not be a negative Nancy; I say it now to remind us to keep our eyes on the prize, which is a Lombardi.

Speaking of, as far as this team's chance at a Superbowl, the #4 seed Rams won a ring just a few years ago. So, will all due respect, take your doomsinging and stuff it.